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Re: Lookup by Twilio

#71

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That's because there's no real way for them to know you moved a number. Nobody knows you moved the number except the two companies involved. So, unless they had direct access to the customer records of each telco, they can only guess by the original owner.

That can't be true. If a number was ported from Carrier X to Carrier Y and someone makes a call originating from carrier Z, I am pretty sure carrier X is not involved any more in the routing of the call, which means that carrier Z has some way to figure out which carrier to route to (Y in this case). So it's not just those two companies involved. At least in India, there exists a central database of ported numbers wh…

Some things are hard to get to: one thing that struck me was how hard it is to find out if a number has changed owner (think SMS subscriptions.)

Re: Lookup by Twilio

#74
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My telco was charging $8/month for visual voicemail, so I opted to buy a Twilio number for $1/month, and set my phone to forward no answer/busy/unavailable to a simple Twilio app I wrote that handles voicemail. When someone leaves me a message, I get an SMS with the message and caller details. I've been using OpenCNAM ( https://www.opencnam.com ) for the caller ID look-up. I implemented something similar for our offi…

I worked on a very similar project a few years back, but without lookup and with an altogether different (physical) interface: http://iamsaul.co.uk/projects/message-box/

Re: Lookup by Twilio

#75
How are you doing HLR lookups for numbers in vodafone range in the UK? I thought companies were barred from sharing this information? Apparently txtnation is not allowed to do this. Not sure how current this blog post is.

https://clients.txtnation.com/entries/21436098-HLR-Lookup-Ov...

'The UK is an unusual country as far as number portability is concerned. There is no central number administration database, and Vodafone UK prevent HLR Lookups to all parties. Hence, we currently fully resolve all UK mobile numbers except Vodafone ported out. - If you query a Vodafone number our Gateway responds based on number range info. - If the Vodafone number has been ported out, our Gateway response will still come up as a Vodafone number. - If a number has been ported in to Vodafone, our Gateway response will be correct. NOTE: Vodafone UK is only reachable with the NPLU, it is still blocked with RTLU. To be more accurate, it's blocked if the number range belongs to Vodafone.'

Re: Lookup by Twilio

#76

Wow, $0.005 is incredibly expensive for carrier lookups. I run an SMS gateway and our cost for this is $0.0001 per lookup from our primary provider and $0.0002 from our backup provider. Of course we are dealing in bulk but Twilio should be too...

The lowest I've found out there for bulk is $0.002, not $0.0001; what service do you use? I'd owe you a few beers if that's not a typo

Re: Lookup by Twilio

#77
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Interesting results on a couple of 'special' +1800 numbers -- could someone from Twilio clarify the results? +18005551212 { "country_code": "US", "phone_number": "+18005551212", "national_format": "(800) 555-1212", "url": "https://lookups.twilio.com/v1/PhoneNumber/+18005551212", "carrier": { "type": "mobile", "error_code": null, "mobile_network_code": null, "mobile_country_code": "310", "name": "ICE Wireless" } } +18…

I suppose not... :(

Re: Lookup by Twilio

#78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be based on the number itself. Obviously with local number portability this is not super accurate, but we do have some customers that find the data useful nevertheless.

Are you guys going to implement it in the lookup, then?

I filed a support ticket the other day because I was curious, and this was the response I got:

``` Right now there are no plans to add this ability to this feature but I'm sure it's something we would look at as we go along. We really weren't sure this was a viable feature but enough people made noise so we developed it to help companies be more efficient when sending and calling the people they need to connect with. ```

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