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Yale Launches Expansion of the Department of Computer Science

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Re: Yale Launches Expansion of the Department of Computer Science

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This was overdue, but definitely a good announcement.

For people who think this is absurdly slow, I would point out that undergraduate enrollment in the department has grown 5-10x in the last four years. In 2011, I was in a four person class with a professor and a TA, and some core classes had <20 students. Now those same classes have well over 100 students. Top tier universities just can't react and find talented faculty that quickly.

Re: Yale Launches Expansion of the Department of Computer Science

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"... seven faculty positions in the Department of Computer Science over the next few years, including two searches this year and three more next year ..."

Thank you. I wish every single article on the Internet had a tl;dr like this.

How I miss Summly, although this article likely wouldn't have been found there.

Re: Yale Launches Expansion of the Department of Computer Science

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post #11

This was overdue, but definitely a good announcement. For people who think this is absurdly slow, I would point out that undergraduate enrollment in the department has grown 5-10x in the last four years. In 2011, I was in a four person class with a professor and a TA, and some core classes had <20 students. Now those same classes have well over 100 students. Top tier universities just can't react and find talented fa…

Top tier universities just can't react and find talented faculty that quickly.

In a sense I think this is right—they can't, right now—but in another sense I think slow reaction times are a choice: they can react much faster but choose, for cultural and bureaucratic reasons, not to.

I'd also like to see universities move away from tenure-based hiring and towards long-term-contract-based hiring that effectively rewards strong instructors. Doing so may among other things alleviate some of the current slowness in university action.

Re: Yale Launches Expansion of the Department of Computer Science

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(full disclosure: I'm a Yale EE grad working as a software engineer for the last 17 years in the valley). The school has had an ambivalent relationship with applied sciences through its history. They considered closing the engineering departments in the early 90's when I was a student. I am glad to see the school investing in this area, even if it less out of intrinsic interest and more out of market demand and perce…

It is the same as NYU did in 70s. But now NYU merge NYU-Poly as its school of engineering. I am always amazed at what criteria are used by school administrators to decide which departments to fund. It is very surprised to me as a foreigner born that U.S. doesn't need engineers from Ivy League....

Ivy League schools breed leaders not us over paid worker bees. Only engineers complain about working under non-engineers. Lawyers at law firms don't have that problem.

Re: Yale Launches Expansion of the Department of Computer Science

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post #11

This was overdue, but definitely a good announcement. For people who think this is absurdly slow, I would point out that undergraduate enrollment in the department has grown 5-10x in the last four years. In 2011, I was in a four person class with a professor and a TA, and some core classes had <20 students. Now those same classes have well over 100 students. Top tier universities just can't react and find talented fa…

Stanford and MIT don't have that problem. Or at least they're in better shape than Yale (with the same problem)

Re: Yale Launches Expansion of the Department of Computer Science

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you. I wish every single article on the Internet had a tl;dr like this.

How I miss Summly, although this article likely wouldn't have been found there.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/yahoo-news-digest/id78498235...

Disclosure: I work for Yahoo, not on Summly/News digest however.

Re: Yale Launches Expansion of the Department of Computer Science

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How I miss Summly, although this article likely wouldn't have been found there.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/yahoo-news-digest/id78498235... Disclosure: I work for Yahoo, not on Summly/News digest however.

Thanks for the link! BTW I am really enjoying the apps that are coming out of Yahoo lately.

Re: Yale Launches Expansion of the Department of Computer Science

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(full disclosure: I'm a Yale EE grad working as a software engineer for the last 17 years in the valley). The school has had an ambivalent relationship with applied sciences through its history. They considered closing the engineering departments in the early 90's when I was a student. I am glad to see the school investing in this area, even if it less out of intrinsic interest and more out of market demand and perce…

It is the same as NYU did in 70s. But now NYU merge NYU-Poly as its school of engineering. I am always amazed at what criteria are used by school administrators to decide which departments to fund. It is very surprised to me as a foreigner born that U.S. doesn't need engineers from Ivy League....

The Ivy League is basically a historical accident. The US has a whole bunch of other incredibly strong engineering schools, from newer private institutions (Stanford, MIT, CMU) to top public schools (Berkeley, UCLA, Georgia Tech). (These are also perfectly competitive in other subjects from English to pure mathematics.)

Historically, engineering and CS was not a priority for the older Ivies, and it was never an issue for anyone else because there were so many strong alternatives.

This department expansion is certainly good for Yale, but the effect it will have on the top engineering education in the US as a whole is marginal.

Re: Yale Launches Expansion of the Department of Computer Science

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"... seven faculty positions in the Department of Computer Science over the next few years, including two searches this year and three more next year ..."

And fwiw, they currently appear to have somewhere between 20 and 27 professors in CS, depending on how you count people who have cross-appointments in multiple departments (some are clearly primarily CS, some primarily elsewhere, and some don't make it obvious from their website). So adding 7 is an expansion of ~25-35%.

Re: Yale Launches Expansion of the Department of Computer Science

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is the same as NYU did in 70s. But now NYU merge NYU-Poly as its school of engineering. I am always amazed at what criteria are used by school administrators to decide which departments to fund. It is very surprised to me as a foreigner born that U.S. doesn't need engineers from Ivy League....

Ivy League schools breed leaders not us over paid worker bees. Only engineers complain about working under non-engineers. Lawyers at law firms don't have that problem.

As a senior at Yale right now, and seeing what most of my fellow students are going into next year, the Ivy League is great at pumping out over paid worker bees. See here http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2012/02/13/finance-continues-t... for the numbers going into finance (~20%) and just anecdotally I would guess there are only slightly less going into consulting. Finally, there are a not insignificant number (maybe 10%) doing some sort of engineering.
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