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Re: Heroku Beta Pricing

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Post by practicalpants »

jagthedrummer wrote: post #44

Here's an analysis of how these rumored changes will affect apps of various sizes. http://www.octolabs.com/blogs/octoblog/2015/03/31/analysis-o... tl;dr : Current paying customers will see a discount of up to 30%. Current freeloaders will have to pay $84/year for functionality equivalent to what they get now. Anyone who is technical enough to use Heroku effectively can charge AT LEAST $84/hour for their time, meaning…

> Anyone who is technical enough to use Heroku effectively can charge AT LEAST $84/hour for their time

This is very off base in my experience. I know countless beginner devs who swear by Heroku, because it's designed to be that simple.

You're not a 'freeloader' if you have lots of apps on the free tier but production grade ones where you pay premium. You're a paying customer in that case, and that's probably a common pattern with these 'freeloaders' - lots of free apps, but key paying ones.

All in all, I'm not going to pay $84/year for each of my 12-14 personal apps that have light traffic (couple hits per hour maybe). I'm going to pick a new platform and make it part of my workflow, and for the sake of simplicity, I will be moving all of my apps to it, paid ones included.

Re: Heroku Beta Pricing

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Post by tortilla »

glesica wrote: post #67
tortilla wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was a freeloader for 5 or 6 low traffic sites. But now I have a production-grade app at over $700 a month.

Are you going to move your very significant app to another platform because of this? Seems like an absurd thing to do to save yourself maybe a couple hundred bucks a year...

No, I'm very happy with Heroku. Just wanted to highlight my progression. Freeloader to paying customer. I wouldn't be a paying Heroku customer without a generous free tier to experiment with.

Re: Heroku Beta Pricing

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Post by jagthedrummer »

practicalpants wrote: post #81
jagthedrummer wrote: post #44

Here's an analysis of how these rumored changes will affect apps of various sizes. http://www.octolabs.com/blogs/octoblog/2015/03/31/analysis-o... tl;dr : Current paying customers will see a discount of up to 30%. Current freeloaders will have to pay $84/year for functionality equivalent to what they get now. Anyone who is technical enough to use Heroku effectively can charge AT LEAST $84/hour for their time, meaning…

> Anyone who is technical enough to use Heroku effectively can charge AT LEAST $84/hour for their time This is very off base in my experience. I know countless beginner devs who swear by Heroku, because it's designed to be that simple. You're not a 'freeloader' if you have lots of apps on the free tier but production grade ones where you pay premium. You're a paying customer in that case, and that's probably a common…

I'd be interested to hear what you move to, what the set up looks like there, and what you pay for it.

Re: Heroku Beta Pricing

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Post by jagthedrummer »

metasean wrote: post #72
jagthedrummer wrote: post #44

Here's an analysis of how these rumored changes will affect apps of various sizes. http://www.octolabs.com/blogs/octoblog/2015/03/31/analysis-o... tl;dr : Current paying customers will see a discount of up to 30%. Current freeloaders will have to pay $84/year for functionality equivalent to what they get now. Anyone who is technical enough to use Heroku effectively can charge AT LEAST $84/hour for their time, meaning…

I have multiple smallish projects that don't need to be up 24/7, but that may evolve into something more. I'm not going to pay $84/year per project to keep them on Heroku. So, I'll end up moving them, and as they evolve, they'll evolve on the other platform.

I'd be interested to hear what you move to, what the set up looks like there, and what you pay for it.

Re: Heroku Beta Pricing

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Post by tedmiston »

riffraff wrote: post #34
petercooper wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there anyone outside of a total beginner or a newly created company who hasn't had an AWS account for over a year now? I don't even use mine a lot (mostly S3) but signed up very early on just to check it out, as with most things, so I wonder how relevant Amazon's free tier even is now.

you might have an AWS account but not necessarily to run a web app, cause you're in the "meh, I'd rather do git push heroku now than learn to setup elastic beanstalk/opsworks+docker/ec2+deis". The latter becomes more attractive now, and once you have learned to use AWS's X tech to run $SILLY_SERVICE you might end up using it for $SERIOUS_SERVICE.

To be fair, an EC2 box alone is all you really need for a simple site...

Re: Heroku Beta Pricing

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Post by tedmiston »

practicalpants wrote: post #81
jagthedrummer wrote: post #44

Here's an analysis of how these rumored changes will affect apps of various sizes. http://www.octolabs.com/blogs/octoblog/2015/03/31/analysis-o... tl;dr : Current paying customers will see a discount of up to 30%. Current freeloaders will have to pay $84/year for functionality equivalent to what they get now. Anyone who is technical enough to use Heroku effectively can charge AT LEAST $84/hour for their time, meaning…

> Anyone who is technical enough to use Heroku effectively can charge AT LEAST $84/hour for their time This is very off base in my experience. I know countless beginner devs who swear by Heroku, because it's designed to be that simple. You're not a 'freeloader' if you have lots of apps on the free tier but production grade ones where you pay premium. You're a paying customer in that case, and that's probably a common…

I feel like most of us are in this situation, maybe not with 12-14 personal apps, but at least a couple.

Re: Heroku Beta Pricing

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Post by aikah »

mark_l_watson wrote: post #53

IBM is trying to build their hosting business. They offer a really generous free monthly tier on BlueMix. You can run a web app with a small data store for free.

no, it's 375hours/month just like the new free heroku plan.

Re: Heroku Beta Pricing

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Post by imdsm »

dangrossman wrote: post #77
imdsm wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm in the same boat with my blog. I'm not paying $7 for a single dyno when it's footprint is no-where near 512 mb. They should offer a smaller dynos at say 128 mb for $1.75, that I might be interested in. I'll be interested to see what they do to my existing apps.

Viable business models for B2B businesses that involve charging the price of a fountain soda per month for anything are few and far between. Just charging your card that dollar costs a quarter or two, and sets up expectations that free tiers don't come with. So you may want a $1.75 fully managed PaaS, but it's doubtful anyone wants to sell that to you.

Indeed, which is why they'll probably lose a lot of people.

I'd be happy to put credit onto the account to use the smaller tier, or PayPal it or something, but I'm not paying for a big footprint that I'm not using.

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