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I'm not going to get into the debate of open floor plans vs individual offices since most people already have their opinions and I see pros & cons to both. That debate aside, I think that roof top green space is absolutely awesome. I would love to see more of those being built into new buildings.

The fact that there is even a debate means not everyone likes it, therefore, it shouldn't be forced on everyone.

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Hard surfaces everywhere. The acoustical consultant in me takes one look at those pictures and wants to start crying.

YES. I was thinking the same thing. The last building I was in was converted from an old industrial space. There were noise cancelling devices in the ceiling. You couldn't hear the person sitting across the table from you.

Noise canceling? Got a link? I am aware of white noise machines but not noise-canceling. Presently building out a new office and would love to see details.

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I'm genuinely worried about people with sensory oversensitivity problems. Personally I shudder to even think about spending time in a building like that one; those uneven lines painted in the common rooms, bright orange walls, breathtaking vertical spaces - I mean, sure, they do look impressive in photographs, but what about employees who get nauseous and/or dizzy just from looking at that kind of architecture all day long? This may sound silly, but considering how a significant portion of the IT workforce comes from the intersection of extreme introversion and Asperger's, this should be a genuine concern for any equal opportunity employee, especially in that sector.

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I think the type of office space needs to meet the group's work. If solitary quiet work is required, you need either lots of quiet spots or a liberal telecommuting policy. If you need lots of communication, open is fine. I'm surprised that open works there, but Zuckerberg is a developer and has hired most of the senior team. They must have data that it works for them.

> Facebook's engineering director Jocelyn Goldfein spoke about open office plans during her recent talk at Stanford. She explicitly stated that it decreases her team's productivity, but that it was embraced because it promotes "openness" which is a core value at Facebook.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5768771

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I would literally switch jobs (and perhaps careers, if every company was like this) if forced to work in an open office like this. I cannot work that way; I can't focus. I realize that I'm adding nothing constructive to this thread; I don't care. Maybe some manager somewhere will see this and a hundred other anecdotal opinions and think twice about open offices. I am the opposite of a prima donna. I just want to work…

"Why don't you take a nice walk to clear your mind. Might I suggest our 9-acre roof which is a park?"

The thought of going for a walk and only seeing my coworkers sounds horrible and not very clearing.

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This room looks huge but the facebook one must be several times the size.. http://www.radialsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/UBS-tr...

That looks horrifying. What are the benefits of such a layout?

I am a quant in a bank and I work in similar massive open spaces. Being in such noisy places has actually helped me find my focus zone! No matter how noisy it gets, I seem to be able to find a calm place within my head

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I've worked in an exclusively open format office and it can be hard at times. Ideally you can find 2-3 spots to work: your desk near your team, a reliably (tho perhaps non-reservable) quiet spot for focusing, and an (perhaps unreliable) quiet spot for super privacy (e.g. a conference room ). The most damaging part of the open format (for me) is that extroverted ops folk would fight fires all day and make tons of nois…

"Move fast and break things", there's no time for deep thoughts and too much uncertainty for carefully planned architectures.

Pshh, so yesterday. It's "Move fast with stable infra" now. Even Zuckerberg had to grow up eventually.

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I saw this one from Chris Marra https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204715357418943

Ah, that is Zuckberg and Schrep embracing the open floor plan by commandeering a conference room for a small two person meeting.

'Open floor plan' doesn't mean there's no leeway if you want to have a private discussion, or a meeting with more than 2-3 people for more than 5 minutes.

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I would literally switch jobs (and perhaps careers, if every company was like this) if forced to work in an open office like this. I cannot work that way; I can't focus. I realize that I'm adding nothing constructive to this thread; I don't care. Maybe some manager somewhere will see this and a hundred other anecdotal opinions and think twice about open offices. I am the opposite of a prima donna. I just want to work…

I've worked in an exclusively open format office and it can be hard at times. Ideally you can find 2-3 spots to work: your desk near your team, a reliably (tho perhaps non-reservable) quiet spot for focusing, and an (perhaps unreliable) quiet spot for super privacy (e.g. a conference room ). The most damaging part of the open format (for me) is that extroverted ops folk would fight fires all day and make tons of nois…

  > I've worked in an exclusively open format office and it 
  > can be hard at times. Ideally you can find 2-3 spots to 
  > work: your desk near your team, a reliably (tho perhaps 
  > non-reservable) quiet spot for focusing, and an (perhaps 
  > unreliable) quiet spot for super privacy (e.g. a 
  > conference room )
Yeah this seems typical. And it seems so close to ideal, actually. That shared, collaborative space is very important. There just needs to be enough quiet space for every engineer to grab a "booth" or a "nook" whenever they need to focus and bear down.

The average mid-level engineer in the U.S. makes something like $80K/year; it's obviously proportionally higher in tech hubs like the valley.

It's just heartbreakingly, frustratingly comical to think of a highly-paid engineer losing hours and hours of work every week as they wander around looking for an actual spot in the office to, you know, work.

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