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Re: Ask HN: Who are your favorite poets?

#201
Shel Silverstein [0] has been on my bookshelf. I enjoyed reading Falling Up [1] as a way to help my kids understand that poetry is more than rhyming.

From The Little Boy And the Old Man [2]:

Said the little boy, "Sometimes I drop my spoon."

Said the old man, "I do that too."

The little boy whispered, "I wet my pants."

"I do that too," laughed the little old man.

Said the little boy, "I often cry."

The old man nodded, "So do I."

"But worst of all," said the boy, "it seems Grown-ups don't pay attention to me."

And he felt the warmth of a wrinkled old hand. "I know what you mean," said the little old man.

[0] http://www.shelsilverstein.com/

[1] http://www.shelsilverstein.com/books/falling/

[2] http://www.poetrysoup.com/famous/poems/best/shel_silverstein

Re: Ask HN: Who are your favorite poets?

#202

I've always been fond of Albert Goldbarths' "Budget Travel Through Time and Space". He's an old timer with modern sensibilities, narratives that criss-cross eras with ease and a cosmological perspective. Science is inflected in a lot of his work. "The Sciences Sing a Lullabye" Physics says: go to sleep. Of course you’re tired. Every atom in you has been dancing the shimmy in silver shoes nonstop from mitosis to now.…

It's a lot more metaphorical and more fanciful but there's "Evolution" by Langdon Smith: https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/int/evolution.html

  When you were a tadpole and I was a fish
  In the Paleozoic time,
  And side by side on the ebbing tide
  We sprawled through the ooze and slime,
  Or skittered with many a caudal flip
  Through the depths of the Cambrian fen,
  My heart was rife with the joy of life,
  For I loved you even then. [...]

Re: Ask HN: Who are your favorite poets?

#203
Philip Larkin has been mentioned already in this thread. The following two poems by Larkin inspire me in a backwards sort of way.

This first one, "Next, Please" reminds me that we can't just wait for something amazing to happen in our lives, thinking that some day it surely will all on its own. We need to be proactive and make things happen.

  Next, Please

  Always too eager for the future, we
  Pick up bad habits of expectancy.
  Something is always approaching; every day
  Till then we say,

  Watching from a bluff the tiny, clear
  Sparkling armada of promises draw near.
  How slow they are! And how much time they waste,
  Refusing to make haste!

  Yet still they leave us holding wretched stalks
  Of disappointment, for, though nothing balks
  Each big approach, leaning with brasswork prinked,
  Each rope distinct,

  Flagged, and the figurehead with golden tits
  Arching our way, it never anchors; it's
  No sooner present than it turns to past.
  Right to the last

  We think each one will heave to and unload
  All good into our lives, all we are owed
  For waiting so devoutly and so long.
  But we are wrong:

  Only one ship is seeking us, a black-
  Sailed unfamiliar, towing at her back
  A huge and birdless silence. In her wake
  No waters breed or break.
Second is Larkin's Poem "To Failure", which remindes me that I likely will not fail spectacularly, but slowly everyday, almost without notice, when I let the day slip away without achieving at least one small step towards a goal.

  To Failure

  You do not come dramatically, with dragons
  That rear up with my life between their paws  
  And dash me butchered down beside the wagons,
  The horses panicking; nor as a clause
  Clearly set out to warn what can be lost,
  What out-of-pocket charges must be borne,
  Expenses met; nor as a draughty ghost
  That’s seen, some mornings, running down a lawn.

  It is these sunless afternoons, I find,
  Instal you at my elbow like a bore.
  The chestnut trees are caked with silence. I’m
  Aware the days pass quicker than before,
  Smell staler too. And once they fall behind
  They look like ruin. You have been here some time.
Finally, as technical people, we can get so absorbed in what we are doing that we forget the importance of fostering the relationships around us with those we love:

  Without Mercy, the Rains Continued (by David St. John)

  There had been 
  A microphone hidden

  Beneath the bed 
  Of course I didn't realize it

  At the time & in fact 
  Didn't know for years

  Until one day a standard 
  Khaki book mailer

  Arrived & within it 
  An old

  Stained cassette tape 
  Simply labeled in black marker

  "Him / Me / September 1975" 
  & as I listened I knew something

  Had been asked of me 
  Across the years & loneliness

  To which I simply responded 
  With the same barely audible

  Silence that I had chosen then

Re: Ask HN: Who are your favorite poets?

#204
post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sorry, but reading the translation of Quran, I can't believe it: Those who wander from the way of Allah have an awful doom.--38:36 Take them [unbelivers] and kill them wherever ye find them. Against such We have given you clear warrant.--4:91 O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you--9:123 Those who strive against Our revelations, challenging (Us),…

You are cherry picking verses completely pulled out of their context for the sake of bashing the theological believes of Islam, I was talking about the poetic quality. Here is a video to illustrate the poetic quality of the Quran: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPnS4_kmr0w

acqq may be cherry-picking and bashing islam, but you were proselytising - you weren't just talking about the poetic quality.

Your video boils down to "it is because it is". It relies on the faulty assumption that a human or collection of humans can't possibly write something that's very beautiful. It's not even an internally consistent argument - somehow humans are able to analyse and critique the poetry in the koran, but yet not able to create it? It simply doesn't follow that because something is beautiful, only a god could have created it.

Re: Ask HN: Who are your favorite poets?

#205

Neruda is my favourite. I want to do to you , what the spring does to the cherry trees. Here's another one Tonight I can write the saddest lines. I loved her, and sometimes she loved me too. How he is able construct such powerful verse out of simple words and concepts always blows me away. Though it looks easy I've never seen a good imitation of his style. Then there's this poem by Phillip Larkin that I like. They fu…

+1 for Coleridge, especially the first stanza of Kubla Khan [0].

Also, I'm surprised to see nobody here recommending A.E. Houseman. His Reveille is my favorite poem:

... Up, lad, up, 'tis late for lying: Hear the drums of morning play; Hark, the empty highways crying 'Who'll beyond the hills away?' ...

[0] http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/173247

Re: Ask HN: Who are your favorite poets?

#206
I have this one tacked up on my wall. Not only is it inspirational, but I am impressed by the syllabic structure of the poem (alternating 11/10 syllables, iambic). Having never really studied poetry before, I found this really cool.

If, by Rudyard Kipling

    If you can keep your head when all about you   
    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,   
    If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,
    But make allowance for their doubting too;   
    If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
    Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,
    Or being hated, don’t give way to hating,
    And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:

    If you can dream—and not make dreams your master;   
    If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim;   
    If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
    And treat those two impostors just the same;   
    If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken
    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
    Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
    And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:

    If you can make one heap of all your winnings
    And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
    And lose, and start again at your beginnings
    And never breathe a word about your loss;
    If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
    To serve your turn long after they are gone,   
    And so hold on when there is nothing in you
    Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’

    If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,   
    Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,
    If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,
    If all men count with you, but none too much;
    If you can fill the unforgiving minute
    With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run,   
    Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,   
    And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!

Re: Ask HN: Who are your favorite poets?

#207
Images by Tyrone Green

Dark and lonely on a summer's night.

Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.

Watchdog barking. Do he bite?

Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.

Slip in his window. Break his neck.

Then his house I start to wreck.

Got no reason. What the heck?

Kill my landlord. Kill my landlord.

C-I-L my land lord!

(as performed by Eddie Murphy on SNL)

Re: Ask HN: Who are your favorite poets?

#208
Gerard Manley Hopkins: God’s Grandeur

  THE WORLD is charged with the grandeur of God.

    It will flame out, like shining from shook foil;

    It gathers to a greatness, like the ooze of oil

  Crushed. Why do men then now not reck his rod?

  Generations have trod, have trod, have trod;

    And all is seared with trade; bleared, smeared with toil;

    And wears man’s smudge and shares man’s smell: the soil

  Is bare now, nor can foot feel, being shod.

  And for all this, nature is never spent;

    There lives the dearest freshness deep down things;

  And though the last lights off the black West went

    Oh, morning, at the brown brink eastward, springs—    

  Because the Holy Ghost over the bent

    World broods with warm breast and with ah! bright wings.


I don't actually liken the poem to god's grandeur... more the seemingly unending bounty of the world, and its perseverance in spite of a harsh and unforgiving universe.

Re: Ask HN: Who are your favorite poets?

#209
I think the highest forum of poetry is the double-dactyl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_dactyl).

Here's one I wrote in 2010 about reddit:

    Hexis-a-plexis, A-
    -lexis Ohanian
    Started a website with
    His best friend Steve.

    Then after selling it,
    Conde Nast management's
    Ultrashortsightedness
    Forced them to leave

Re: Ask HN: Who are your favorite poets?

#210
post #209

I think the highest forum of poetry is the double-dactyl ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_dactyl ). Here's one I wrote in 2010 about reddit: Hexis-a-plexis, A- -lexis Ohanian Started a website with His best friend Steve. Then after selling it, Conde Nast management's Ultrashortsightedness Forced them to leave

Don't forget the clerihew.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clerihew

I once wrote one about Jon Johansen (although that was only my second-best-known poem about him).

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