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Having worked as researcher/dev in both private office and open space setup, I am absolutely convinced that private offices are way more productive than open office setup for researchers and developers. Most, if not all, of my colleagues feel the same. In fact, I don't think I will ever accept an offer from a mature company (not startup) which houses its developers in open space.

The trend in most modern workspaces is to have mixed use. Generally open plan for most day-to-day work and then a variety of private areas. For example offices and cubicles that are shared. Development is always tricky because often you need clear air to solve problems but then occasionally collaboration is required.

It's not really that tricky- there are many tools for collaboration including IRC. And you can always go to another developers office, in the ideal one developer-per office situation.

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I will never work in an open office plan. It's one of the items on my "prima donna" list. Despite the name I'm pretty serious, and while some of this list represents things that others might not be able to avoid, or even agree with because they are personal preferences, all of the items are the result of bad experiences or missteps I've experienced directly at a job in the past. I know some may object to these. That'…

The Windows and Mac rules are much more personal opinions than the rest. There's no great insight there, especially for someone who prefers Windows, but it adds a dimension of partisanship.

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I will never work in an open office plan. It's one of the items on my "prima donna" list. Despite the name I'm pretty serious, and while some of this list represents things that others might not be able to avoid, or even agree with because they are personal preferences, all of the items are the result of bad experiences or missteps I've experienced directly at a job in the past. I know some may object to these. That'…

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Re: “Today we moved into our new Facebook building”

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I will never work in an open office plan. It's one of the items on my "prima donna" list. Despite the name I'm pretty serious, and while some of this list represents things that others might not be able to avoid, or even agree with because they are personal preferences, all of the items are the result of bad experiences or missteps I've experienced directly at a job in the past. I know some may object to these. That'…

The Windows and Mac rules are much more personal opinions than the rest. There's no great insight there, especially for someone who prefers Windows, but it adds a dimension of partisanship.

Feel free to swap out Windows/Mac/Linux for your preferred OS configurations and make your own rules. I'm not trying to start a debate on what is best-- except maybe to say to give your employees the option.

Of course if you're building windows software you're going to be working on a windows machine, same thing with iOS. But if you're building stuff to run on linux servers, seems wrong to make your employees do it on windows (since it's not unix.) Sure if some employee prefers to do it on windows (since it has ssh, etc.) more power to them!

Re: “Today we moved into our new Facebook building”

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I will never work in an open office plan. It's one of the items on my "prima donna" list. Despite the name I'm pretty serious, and while some of this list represents things that others might not be able to avoid, or even agree with because they are personal preferences, all of the items are the result of bad experiences or missteps I've experienced directly at a job in the past. I know some may object to these. That'…

21. for a company that wants to piss-test you

Re: “Today we moved into our new Facebook building”

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How loud is your open office?

It's as a result of prolonged headphone use, not loudness.

I guess I'm screwed either way. I have an office currently but I still use my headphones as much as when I didn't have one.

Re: “Today we moved into our new Facebook building”

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Here's an article with a bunch of sizzling Instagram shots from people who got to take the first look: http://www.popularmechanics.com/culture/web/news/a14830/face... I'm really impressed by how non-gimmicky this Gehry building looks on the outside, and it seems like they really did a good job designing whatever space isn't consumed by the open plan.

Where's a photo of this massive open floor?

Re: “Today we moved into our new Facebook building”

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post #45

I will never work in an open office plan. It's one of the items on my "prima donna" list. Despite the name I'm pretty serious, and while some of this list represents things that others might not be able to avoid, or even agree with because they are personal preferences, all of the items are the result of bad experiences or missteps I've experienced directly at a job in the past. I know some may object to these. That'…

Oh brother.

To be fair, I'm sometimes flexible on some of these depending on the opportunity or situation.

Really, I just want to work remote and be responsible for my own environment.

That's the ultimate lesson of much of this list--- offices are the bane of my productivity.

Re: “Today we moved into our new Facebook building”

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post #49

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I generally agree with this (although who fucking cares if the company doesn't give you parking but pays you $1k/mo more; if 90% of people use transit in SF, I'm fine with paying parking). I think you underestimate Bezos's technical clue, though. And a 1y cliff is pretty standard. There's no real downside to that.

Parking-- problem is, when you have to source it yourself you can end up working for a company where there is not enough parking in the area. Spent a year dealing with this, couldn't get a spot to rent on a monthly basis, there was more demand than parking supply in the area. The company got a deal on the office rental and so ignored this. Them having to source it forces them to take it into account. Convenient to tr…

OK, so rule zero really should be "don't work for idiots, assholes, or idiot assholes" -- that covers a lot of things.
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