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Re: Hey Ubuntu, Stop Making Linux Look Bad

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Post by davidw » Sun, Nov 08, 2009, 6:58 AM UTC

jonathansizz wrote: post #33

davidw wrote: post #9

Linkbait title; Ubuntu has done a great deal to make Linux look much better.

The article points this out. But it also points out (using the Ubuntu release notes) that there are quite a few regressions as well. In other words, there is a lack of professionalism and polish associated with Ubuntu releases. Maybe they're code-freezing too late in each cycle to be able to stabilize everything in time for the release?

I wonder about the regressions too, but that doesn't make for quite such an exciting title.

Re: Hey Ubuntu, Stop Making Linux Look Bad

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Post by saintfiends » Sun, Nov 08, 2009, 8:28 AM UTC

sleepingbot wrote: post #2

I would say it just the other way around. Not kidding. And using on production 9.10. Smooth.

I upgraded from 9.04 and it's working out pretty well

Re: Hey Ubuntu, Stop Making Linux Look Bad

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Post by scorpioxy » Sun, Nov 08, 2009, 10:16 AM UTC

jonathansizz wrote: post #33

davidw wrote: post #9

Linkbait title; Ubuntu has done a great deal to make Linux look much better.

The article points this out. But it also points out (using the Ubuntu release notes) that there are quite a few regressions as well. In other words, there is a lack of professionalism and polish associated with Ubuntu releases. Maybe they're code-freezing too late in each cycle to be able to stabilize everything in time for the release?

I don't think its about when you code-freeze. I think its more because there are way too many bugs and variations of bugs and not enough people to try and solve them. Which is why all the developers ask for help in triaging and polishing bug reports.

This is especially true when its bugs related to different hardware configurations such as multi-screens with specific graphics cards and so on.

Re: Hey Ubuntu, Stop Making Linux Look Bad

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Post by windsurfer » Sun, Nov 08, 2009, 2:29 PM UTC

jrockway wrote: post #39

htsh wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its not just the boot process, but disk access in general will be slower, especially if your disk is fragmented. The file system is implemented as a single file on the windows partition. http://linux.about.com/od/dist/gr/dstwubi.htm http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-536450.html

I use Debian in a Windows VMware host (at work), and it is more than fast enough. The only problem is that VMWare's X server is broken in such a way as to not be able to draw window decorations if they are drawn via X's standard function to draw window decorations. Very stupid.

I had that problem in Ubuntu and switched to VirtualBox. Surprisingly, when I enabled 3D rendering in VirtualBox and enabled compositing in OpenBox, My performance and snappiness increased.

Re: Hey Ubuntu, Stop Making Linux Look Bad

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Post by rbanffy » Sun, Nov 08, 2009, 3:48 PM UTC

rbanffy wrote: post #32

jrockway wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bad when it's Linux, great when it's Revision A Apple hardware...

Plus: there are no reports of Ubuntu installs like iPods ;-) It's also easier to patch software, although it's harder to make it run on hardware someone else designed and who will not tell you anything about how it works. Apple doesn't have this problem either: the least they can do is OSX folks pointing fingers to Macintosh hardware designers. But I have to admit Apple hardware has the good looks on its side.

oops... Ubuntu installs catching fire like iPods...

mental note: never, ever engage in witty comments past bedtime.

Re: Hey Ubuntu, Stop Making Linux Look Bad

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Post by easp » Sun, Nov 08, 2009, 7:03 PM UTC

cabalamat wrote: post #34

jonathansizz wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article points this out. But it also points out (using the Ubuntu release notes) that there are quite a few regressions as well. In other words, there is a lack of professionalism and polish associated with Ubuntu releases. Maybe they're code-freezing too late in each cycle to be able to stabilize everything in time for the release?

> In other words, there is a lack of professionalism and polish associated with Ubuntu releases. I agree. I think they should make their releases less frequent, e.g. move to a 2 year relase cycle. I have zero interest in fiddling with a working computer setup every six months in order to get the latest goodies.

Then use the LTS releases.