What Makes Indiana's Religious Freedom Law Different? • Hacker News Board

Re: What Makes Indiana's Religious Freedom Law Different?

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Post by venomsnake » Mon, Mar 30, 2015, 5:37 PM UTC

ku5e wrote: post #10

venomsnake wrote: post #3

I love how religious freedom and freedom of speech are used to make opt out anything you don't like for corporations.

The Constitution protects your right to free speech. Do you really understand what is being protected? The Constitution protects your freedom of religion. Do you really understand how it is protected? The Constitution says, "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union..." Then in the Bill of Rights (the first 10 amendments) the freedoms of the people are listed. Another way to look at it…

And this rights should be solely reserved for physical human beings. Not for business entities.

Re: What Makes Indiana's Religious Freedom Law Different?

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Post by ku5e » Mon, Mar 30, 2015, 5:58 PM UTC

venomsnake wrote: post #11

ku5e wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Constitution protects your right to free speech. Do you really understand what is being protected? The Constitution protects your freedom of religion. Do you really understand how it is protected? The Constitution says, "We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union..." Then in the Bill of Rights (the first 10 amendments) the freedoms of the people are listed. Another way to look at it…

And this rights should be solely reserved for physical human beings. Not for business entities.

And if my Grandma had two tires attached to her feet, she would be a bicycle, but the reality is she does not, and while they should not be, corporations have personhood. Look up Corporate personhood, and you will see that since 1819 the Supreme court has upheld that corporations hold the same rights as individuals. Sorry, there is a difference between what should be, and what is!

Re: What Makes Indiana's Religious Freedom Law Different?

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Post by xname » Wed, Apr 01, 2015, 12:11 PM UTC

sarciszewski wrote: post #9

xname wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You understanding is wrong. Not because customers are gay. The Christian bakers do not against gay people, they just do not want to make cakes for gay wedding. It's a huge difference. Should a Christian church be forced to host a gay wedding? Can you force a Muslim restaurant to serve pork meat to you? If a Muslim restaurant does not allow you to bring pork meat into their restaurant, is it a discrimination against y…

> The Christian bakers do not against gay people, they just do not want to make cakes for gay wedding. This sounds like there's a great business opportunity to open gay-friendly bakeries throughout Indiana. > Should a Christian church be forced to host a gay wedding? > Can you force a Muslim restaurant to serve pork meat to you? No, but if their businesses fail because of a boycott -- or rather because everyone prefe…

But the problem is that modern liberals think the free-market is too slow and too inefficient. That's why they want the government to force everyone to agree with them immediately.