I read this article as
"STEM education to the exclusion of other liberal arts"
versus
"STEM in balance with liberal arts"
and I tend to agree the latter is more preferable for the overall well being of a society.
America's obsession with STEM education is dangerous
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Re: America's obsession with STEM education is dangerous
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Those stats are faulty - the infant mortality rate 2 centuries ago was massive, which dragged the life expectancy down massively. Also, I don't think extending our life past 80 or so is a good idea. Quality of life is far more important than quantity. Define "overcrowded"... First world countries are more crowded than they were 30 years ago, and (IMHO) the quality of life has gone down. And as for your "increase food…
And what, exactly, do you attribute the drop in infant mortality rates to, if not scientific/technological progress?
> you will probably live 30 years longer than if you were born 2 centuries ago.
Is what the OP said, and it's false. I will not. The average may be 30 years longer, but that's a fairly meaningless statistic.
Re: America's obsession with STEM education is dangerous
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
You're being a little dramatic. "People who do not believe in evolution are holding back progress" ... Honestly... The cool thing about science is that whether you think gravity is real or not you will still fall. Progress will always be made in due time..
> in due time While the rest of the world leaps forward perhaps?
You mean the rest of the world doesn't have people that don't believe in evolution?
Re: America's obsession with STEM education is dangerous
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Catholic doctrine for example is quite clear a belief in evolution does not contradict church doctrine. Of course they are, they have to adapt. Who would go to church if they still insisted that the sun revolves around the earth? Just goes to show that God begins where true knowledge ends.
You are aware the Big Bang and many other scientific principles/theories were brought about by Catholic priests right? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lema%C3%AEtre Science and religion are not intrinsically at odds with each other please stop spreading that extreme non-sense
Tell it to this guy: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiar...
Or tell it to this girl's father: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=h... (scroll down). This is modern times, by the way.
In 2015, there are people who treat women as subhuman beings due to religious reasons. Please tell me more how religion doesn't go hand-in-hand with ignorance.
US isn't the only country in the world, and Christianity isn't the only religion. Christianity has been (and continues to be) watered down to be able to exist in modern western society, that is why you are able to say that it's not at odds with science. Back in the day, if you dared questioning the geocentric model, you'd be burned at the stake.
Re: America's obsession with STEM education is dangerous
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. People who do not believe in evolution are holding back progress. They are making everyone's quality of life worse through their sheer ignorance. People who do not believe in global warming are even worse. I will literally suffocate in my lifetime because of these imbicils. I suppose in some philosophical sense, no we don't all need to agree, but in a practical sense if we want to survive and thrive as a species…
You're being a little dramatic. "People who do not believe in evolution are holding back progress" ... Honestly... The cool thing about science is that whether you think gravity is real or not you will still fall. Progress will always be made in due time..
I present to you Texas science textbooks and their treatment of the theory of evolution. Or shall we teach our future engineers that Pi is exactly 3 too? Ignorant people with influence is a terrible thing.
Re: America's obsession with STEM education is dangerous
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure it is.. if me at 40 is like today's 30, and me at 80 is like today's 50, then keep pushing the envelope.
The way people live today is extremely unhealthy. Cooped up in cities like factory farms, eating mass produced "food" and becoming morbidly obese. The best way to improve your quality of life is not to look to science (Unless you're actually ill), it's to look to nature.
Nah.
People living in cities are healthier and less obese than their counterparts living in the suburbs, rural areas, and small towns.
The best way to improve your life is to look to science. Please stop spreading ignorance around. You're actively working to hold society's progress back.
Re: America's obsession with STEM education is dangerous
#77This is a very disappointing article. It's a regurgitation of cliches. "Education is about critical thinking and 'self enrichment'; Steve Jobs was a Prophet; Mark Zuckerberg is a Public Hero" -- how much was the author paid by Apple and Facebook, or is this what a "stupid sheep" looks like? The conflation of STEM with "Asian educational systems" is hackneyed; every person who does serious things in STEM knows that it…
I agree with everything you said, but I found most disturbing in the article was: "You can make a sneaker equally well in many parts of the world, but you can’t sell it for $300 unless you’ve built a story around it."
So when Beats®, Monster Cable® and Bose® trick the weak-minded into overpaying for commodity products, that is a good thing?
"The value added is in the brand — how it is imagined, presented, sold and sustained" Gee, we used to call that the "rip-off"
Re: America's obsession with STEM education is dangerous
#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
> in due time While the rest of the world leaps forward perhaps?
You mean the rest of the world doesn't have people that don't believe in evolution?
Large scale evolution denialism in the western world is pretty much exclusive to the U.S.
There are, of course, various smaller groups of believers and faith-based private schools that espouse creationism, but it is certainly not very prevalent.
Re: America's obsession with STEM education is dangerous
#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure it is.. if me at 40 is like today's 30, and me at 80 is like today's 50, then keep pushing the envelope.
The way people live today is extremely unhealthy. Cooped up in cities like factory farms, eating mass produced "food" and becoming morbidly obese. The best way to improve your quality of life is not to look to science (Unless you're actually ill), it's to look to nature.
Some might argue that one should avoid appeals to nature [0] (not to mention sweeping generalizations), and rather look to what can be demonstrated to be effective.
Re: America's obsession with STEM education is dangerous
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. People who do not believe in evolution are holding back progress. They are making everyone's quality of life worse through their sheer ignorance. People who do not believe in global warming are even worse. I will literally suffocate in my lifetime because of these imbicils. I suppose in some philosophical sense, no we don't all need to agree, but in a practical sense if we want to survive and thrive as a species…
Your comments come off as ridiculously condescending
It is meant to be. Stubborn ignorance deserves ridicule.