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Re: GitHub under ongoing DDoS attack

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Post by slowmovintarget »

belorn wrote: post #100
mrweasel wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which raises the question: when will the rest of the world kick China of the internet? First it was redirecting Chinese internet users to random IPs, if the government didn't like their DNS queries and now they're doing ddos attack on a site that host a large percentage of open source code, used for a whole host of service and products. At some point it's going to make more economical sense to kick China of the inter…

China will be kicked from the internet at about the same time US and their NSA will be kicked. Which is quite unlikely. We don't kick out USA because NSA breaks into backbone routers, steal encryption codes from sim cards, and steal traffic from google search, Gmail and Facebook. China attacks github, and the reaction will be likely the same. At some point, it is going to make a economical sense to issue a treaty aga…

If the PRC were merely snooping, and not actively attacking, that equivalence would work.

I was also under the impression that this is already in violation of treaty, the only saving grace for the PRC being that it hasn't been proven it's them.

Re: GitHub under ongoing DDoS attack

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Post by jasonwocky »

buro9 wrote: post #55
mrweasel wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which raises the question: when will the rest of the world kick China of the internet? First it was redirecting Chinese internet users to random IPs, if the government didn't like their DNS queries and now they're doing ddos attack on a site that host a large percentage of open source code, used for a whole host of service and products. At some point it's going to make more economical sense to kick China of the inter…

> when will the rest of the world kick China of the internet? By "rest of world" do you mean the USA? Or Europe? Or basically "the west"? When does it sound like cultural imperialism? Are countries (and their citizens) only permitted to be connected to the internet if their culture matches that of your country/federation? How is that not an offensive idea? Usually, I reverse statements and if I find them offensive in…

> Are countries (and their citizens) only permitted to be connected to the internet if their culture matches that of your country/federation?

Don't be so easily offended. Nobody said anything about their culture. The reason the question is being raised is because of the unignorable number of DDOS attacks being launched from their Internet space. Stop that, and you'll have less calls for cutting their connection.

Re: GitHub under ongoing DDoS attack

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Post by hueving »

teamhappy wrote: post #125
ggreer wrote: post #39

The PRC's DDoS of GitHub seems a little risky.[1] If GitHub is inventive (or desperate) enough, they could call on their users for aid. The perpetrators would immediately draw the ire of vast numbers of talented programmers. And GitHub is positioned to direct this ire toward useful ends. They could encourage users to contribute to GreatFire, or even start other initiatives and projects to stymie censorship. The outco…

> they could call on their users for aid You gotta be kidding. Calling on their paying customers to commit a crime on their behalf? Really?

When did writing ddos protection tools become a crime? Was that shortly after it became illegal to try to stop someone from stabbing you?

Re: GitHub under ongoing DDoS attack

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Post by est »

golergka wrote: post #104

Can Github ask for US Government help with it, since it's an attack by [presumably] foreign sovereign entity? It's paying taxes in US, right — so it may expect some kind of protection, isn't this what taxes are about?

Well, the DDoS target, github.com/greatfire is funded by US government. So US government is fueling the DDoS in certain aspect.

Re: GitHub under ongoing DDoS attack

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Post by ck2 »

If this is China doing this, it makes me so upset the US has spent years and billions of dollars building up their economy instead of countries like Mexico.

Our relationship with them is almost as bad as our middle-eastern oil addiction.

Re: GitHub under ongoing DDoS attack

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Post by teamhappy »

hueving wrote: post #133
teamhappy wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> they could call on their users for aid You gotta be kidding. Calling on their paying customers to commit a crime on their behalf? Really?

When did writing ddos protection tools become a crime? Was that shortly after it became illegal to try to stop someone from stabbing you?

Maybe I misinterpreted the "or desperate enough," I don't know, but quite a lot of people in this thread seem very trigger happy.

// Fun fact: Depending on what jurisdiction you're under and how the tool is implemented writing a DDoS protection tool might actually be considered a crime.

Re: GitHub under ongoing DDoS attack

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Post by DanielBMarkham »

mckoss wrote: post #130
gog wrote: post #21

As a paying customer of Github I want them to know they have my undivided support in staying strong against "the bullies".

"Bully" is rather too weak a label for the perpetrator. This attack is criminal. If carried out by a sovereign nation, perhaps an act of war. We don't allow foreign raiding parties to enter our country to loot private businesses. Neither should we treat this attack as a simple act of "bullying". GitHub should get the full support of federal law enforcement, if not the military.

It's become clear to me over the past 5-10 years or so that we're in some sort of weird undeclared war on the Internet. Nations are doing exactly what you describe, and it seems there is little to no repercussions for them doing so.

Re: GitHub under ongoing DDoS attack

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Post by dorfsmay »

beefsack wrote: post #134

As convenient as GitHub is, let this be a lesson to ensure you have multiple remotes for your repositories. The more popular GitHub gets, the more it will become a target from a wide range of vectors.

All your devs already have copies or your repos, and setting up a common server to share over ssh is easy (first thing we did on Friday). The bigger issues are dependencies, most people's builds these days depend on pulling dependencies from github.

Re: GitHub under ongoing DDoS attack

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Post by semi-extrinsic »

pdm55 wrote: post #83
ronnier wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You want the people in China consuming more and not less of it. Want all you wish, the Chinese government is actively stopping and blocking the outside internet at an alarming rate. I was in Beijing a few weeks ago and couldn't load google, youtube, gmail, gmaps, instangram, facebook, twitter, various chatting apps, imgur, and on and on. Even using VPNs were difficult. I don't see this stopping anytime soon since i…

I spend about 6 months of the year in China. Yes, I am forced, as you say, to use the Chinese versions of everything, but, to be honest, it doesn't worry me. I use Baidu to put my teaching notes online for my students - it is as good as DropBox. Bing is allowed and works fine as a search engine, even if it blocks any results for "naughty" words. It becomes a bit of a game to see which double entendres it doesn't reco…

Are you really serious? Adblocking is trivial and does not require government censorship. And how does allowing access to Google let them rule the world?
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