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Re: Arduino Dispute reaches out to Distributors

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I will admit that I find the whole issue bewildering, but my gut reaction is that I will in the long run care more about keeping the software flowing than the hardware.

The problem is that these things take time (in Italy even more so), and until they're resolved, any reasonable reseller or manufacturer will stay away from Arduino, basically destroying the ecosystem. In that sense, it doesn't really matter which side "keeps flowing" because nobody will care by then.

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Actions like these will kill the whole arduino brand. It's akin to parents that divorce claiming a physical half of their kids each, it simply will not work.

The rest of the world needs to see a unified front and to air your dirty laundry like this in an attempt to pre-empt the lawsuit is only going to turn off the recipients of this letter from the arduino brand and will cause them to look for alternatives elsewhere (of which there are quite a few by now).

What a pity, the arduino brand had a ton of goodwill attached.

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It's a shame that Arduino SRL is behaving like this. The smart move would've been to make up with the original founders instead of trying to shove them aside.

"Open Source is the environment we want for millions"

In my view, their actions don't seem to embody the spirit of the open source movement.

I've gotten into the arduino environment recently and really enjoy it, even though I come from an embedded background. I hope this doesn't stop the arduino environment and ecosystem.

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Actions like these will kill the whole arduino brand. It's akin to parents that divorce claiming a physical half of their kids each, it simply will not work. The rest of the world needs to see a unified front and to air your dirty laundry like this in an attempt to pre-empt the lawsuit is only going to turn off the recipients of this letter from the arduino brand and will cause them to look for alternatives elsewhere…

I think the arduino brand will die out and I am kinda happy. Those chips are way underpowered for their price and with the rest of the embedded space really moving towards tiny arm cores and general purpose computers I think the market for the AVR's is going to dry up. Even now I can use a raspberry pi for most of the hacks I was using arduino for.

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Actions like these will kill the whole arduino brand. It's akin to parents that divorce claiming a physical half of their kids each, it simply will not work. The rest of the world needs to see a unified front and to air your dirty laundry like this in an attempt to pre-empt the lawsuit is only going to turn off the recipients of this letter from the arduino brand and will cause them to look for alternatives elsewhere…

I think the arduino brand will die out and I am kinda happy. Those chips are way underpowered for their price and with the rest of the embedded space really moving towards tiny arm cores and general purpose computers I think the market for the AVR's is going to dry up. Even now I can use a raspberry pi for most of the hacks I was using arduino for.

I think it's two different tools. "Underpowered" chips have their use and their place. Why deal with embedded Linux when I only need to twiddle some IO on a simple protocol?

For me the issue isn't the brand dying out, its decentralized uniformity. If the main organization spins into oblivion (when talented people give up because of this turmoil) who will make sure the unified IDE keeps with the times?

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Atmel ought to come out with an Arduino form factor board. They make the CPU, and they make lots of eval and demo boards. Just cut out the middleman.

At least for me, Arduino is not even about the hardware itself. It's about a nice, simple and standard platform. You can get many different Arduino compatible boards from different manufacturers, usable for different purposes. You can easily make your own. Having an IDE and a simple library that works on all those boards, without needing any complicated setup, is what makes Arduino what it is.

Re: Arduino Dispute reaches out to Distributors

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Today's business lesson:

   But everyone was friends, right?
Wrong!

That's why you need lawyers and contracts and agreements about who owns what intellectual property. That's why you try to remove any and all ambiguity you can think of. Don't worry, that won't get remove all the "fun". There will be plenty of new ambiguities to squabble over that you haven't thought of yet.

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