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Monsanto Weedkiller Is ‘Probably Carcinogenic,’ WHO Says

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Re: Monsanto Weedkiller Is ‘Probably Carcinogenic,’ WHO Says

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The report's a bit light on details. All sorts of things can cause cancer in lab animals if you give them enough. It's more a question of what concentration.

And if the human exposure studies are that bad I wonder why there's not been much fuss since they were published in 2001.

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The report's a bit light on details. All sorts of things can cause cancer in lab animals if you give them enough. It's more a question of what concentration. And if the human exposure studies are that bad I wonder why there's not been much fuss since they were published in 2001.

The monograph this re-classification is based on is not yet published.

Re: Monsanto Weedkiller Is ‘Probably Carcinogenic,’ WHO Says

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Waiting for the pro-GMO crowd to come forward calling all this "anti-science"...

GMOs have very little to do with weed killers.

Well not when it comes to Round-up Ready. It's Roundup Resistant GMO + Roundup = we kill everything in the field except the crops.

Re: Monsanto Weedkiller Is ‘Probably Carcinogenic,’ WHO Says

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I know that its hard for someone to understand who doesn't work with farm chemicals on a regular basis but Roundup is on the low side in terms of toxicity.

Here's a copy of a Material Safety Data Sheet that all those who handle herbicides need to maintain for employee access:

http://greenhouse.ucdavis.edu/pest/pmsds/Roundup.PDF

Almost anything is toxic, even salt, if the dose is high enough. The question that must be answered is if there is a realistic chance that people in contact with the herbicide can receive a high enough dose to raise the chance of cancer. Or that the average person either living in the country or consuming the food has an increased risk.

It's becoming increasingly common for states to take blood tests at the beginning and ending of the season of commercial pesticide applicators to monitor them.

If anyone was to have an increased level of ill health this group, because of the sheer volume of material that they handle, would be the first to show it.

Re: Monsanto Weedkiller Is ‘Probably Carcinogenic,’ WHO Says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

GMOs have very little to do with weed killers.

Well not when it comes to Round-up Ready. It's Roundup Resistant GMO + Roundup = we kill everything in the field except the crops.

Your first comment seems to suggest that people who are pro-GMOs will be going against these findings. GMOs and weed killers are two parts of Monsanto's business model, but as far as the science behind the two goes there is virtually nothing in common.

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Waiting for the pro-GMO crowd to come forward calling all this "anti-science"...

GMOs have very little to do with weed killers.

The entire point of roundup is that you use a GMO that has been modified to make it resistant to the weedkiller. In theory this allows you to use less weedkiller earlier in the growing cycle.

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Waiting for the pro-GMO crowd to come forward calling all this "anti-science"...

The report isn't claiming GMO is carcinogenic, it's claiming glyphosate is, that's a big difference.

If the roundup crops had been created by breeding or grafting, would you say "I can't wait until the pro-grafting crowd comes forward calling all this "anti-science"

GMO is a technique for modifying plant genomes, Roundup Ready is an application of the technique to make crops resistant to an herbicide. It's overuse of the herbicide that's the problem here.

Traditional plant breeding techniques have successfully been used to breed herbicide resistant crops without GMO now, meaning that you could have the same allegedly carcinogenic cocktail of chemicals sprayed on your non-GMO crops.

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