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Ikea's flat-pack refugee shelter is entering production

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Re: Ikea's flat-pack refugee shelter is entering production

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So when can we buy these at the local ikea?

It would be really great if they sold these such that one purchase could cover the cost of one for charity. It would be even better if there was enough demand to drive the production cost down further.

Yup - I was thinking just that. I could use one of these in the yard as a writing/craft space and would be happy to pay enough for one to be donated to UNHCR.

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If my wife and I had lived in one of those for our first two years of marriage, we could have saved up one heck of a down payment for our first house.

Your house down payment is usually mostly the value of the land underneath the structure, not the structure itself.

Re: Ikea's flat-pack refugee shelter is entering production

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So when can we buy these at the local ikea?

LOL. These are made for refugees. If you want them too, you are going to have to make it from scratch. They are open source, so that should not be a problem

Why is that funny?

Re: Ikea's flat-pack refugee shelter is entering production

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

LOL. These are made for refugees. If you want them too, you are going to have to make it from scratch. They are open source, so that should not be a problem

Why is that funny?

It is their way of dealing with the stress of this world.

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If my wife and I had lived in one of those for our first two years of marriage, we could have saved up one heck of a down payment for our first house.

Likely but the real problem with doing so is actually land. Even if you own some many cities take issue with non-permanent domiciles that are lived in for long periods (not least of all because you escape housing tax, and aren't up to "code").

However several people have done what you're suggesting by:

- Living on a boat (either out at sea, moored just off-shore, or at a marina). This can range from being cheaper, to being much more expensive.

- Campervan, or enclosed truck. They often park semi-legally overnight and move every few days to escape harassment. Bathrooms are problematic (gym? work?).

- Camping (i.e. just tent and woods). This often escapes harassment (since you aren't in a city) but you are limited by water, and often travelling to/from the site is time consuming if you wish to work.

- Living at work (if possible). Likely legal but can get you fired thus homeless.

- Living a hotel. Some people have claimed that they can live in a hotel for less than the cost of a mortgage + utilities + taxes + other expenses. Ditto with some cruises. YMMV.

- Living in a foreign country. If you work remotely living abroad or in the middle of nowhere can cost a LOT less than living in a big expensive city.

PS - In general being homeless is "illegal" in most US cities. You'd get harassed, maybe even arrested, just for being without a fixed address. Most cities will try to run you out of town (literally and figuratively).

Re: Ikea's flat-pack refugee shelter is entering production

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So when can we buy these at the local ikea?

LOL. These are made for refugees. If you want them too, you are going to have to make it from scratch. They are open source, so that should not be a problem

You said open source, I can't seem to find it on google, do you have any reference to the detailed diagram and specs, all the material needed to build one?

Re: Ikea's flat-pack refugee shelter is entering production

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These things are great. But at the same time - so weird.

Helpless victims of failed states, social injustice, greed, hatred, etc can now rely on high tech structures to take care of them.

Genocide ? No problem, we've got you covered. We've got just the perfect structures for $1000 a pop for you to take shelter in.

I mean, it IS the right thing to do, but at the same time, I don't know..

I guess would prefer that somehow there were no refugees and suffering in the first place...

It's a strange thing to say, but somehow, by providing these solutions we're making the crimes less grave, more acceptable, a technical matter rather than a moral one...?

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