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the Australian government made the usual argument that metadata needs to be retained for long periods in order to fight terrorism and serious crime—even though the German experience is that, in practice, data retention does not help

Which only goes to show that it's not about fighting crime, but supporting it on the highest levels. Civil rights and the rule of law are obstacles to the coming rule of institutionalised crime, so they have to be abolished.

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The article linked in the article about how to dodge these new laws has some particularly asinine advice:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/03/australian-govern...

The guy says "just use skype" because then the telco doesn't know who you're calling, just that you called skype.

Sure, because there's NO POSSIBLE WAY for Skype to get a subpoena, right?

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It looks to me like a transition to 'inverted totalitarianism'/'managed democracy': https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_totalitarianism

The state is increasingly controlled by the hyper-wealthy individuals and corporations that fund politics, and its policies and propaganda increasingly reflect their interests. Standard totalitarianism, by contrast, is where the corporations are controlled by the state.

As to whether it's new, I suspect it's just today's manifestation of the same shit that's always been going on, where the wealthy and powerful oppress the poor using whatever technologies are available.

The interesting bit for me is how technology will change people's reaction. It's always been the case that powerful people can manipulate mass media to control the narrative. However, it's only recently that we have developed tools that make it possible for one person (e.g. Snowden) to undo billions of dollars of secrecy by leaking more documents that one could physically carry if they had been printed on paper, then distributing them to millions at zero cost. I think this tips the balance in favour of the citizens. I suspect that we are just seeing more of the efforts to control us exposed in the media than we normally would be aware of.

It kind of brings to mind the recent spate of child abuse revelations in the UK. I don't for a moment think that that sort of stuff only started happening a decade or two ago. Far more likely that it has always been present and only now do we have technology and media that makes it near impossible to hide, so it all comes out.

I wonder what other technologies will emerge that allow us to surveil the powerful in new ways for the first time in history, whether they like it or not.

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The article linked in the article about how to dodge these new laws has some particularly asinine advice: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/03/australian-govern... The guy says "just use skype" because then the telco doesn't know who you're calling, just that you called skype. Sure, because there's NO POSSIBLE WAY for Skype to get a subpoena, right?

"The guy" is the Minister for Communications. :-)

(He's not directly responsible for the law, as it is in the purview of the Attorney General, but the Minister for Communications is a minister of the government.)

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What happened in the last few years to allow our civil rights in the most forward thinking countries to unravel so easily? And why do citizens not care? How is it possible that all countries have elected such a group of corrupt, nearsighted politicians to the point where freedom is an inconvenience over them consolidating practically dictatorial power? And again, why does no one care?

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What happened in the last few years to allow our civil rights in the most forward thinking countries to unravel so easily? And why do citizens not care? How is it possible that all countries have elected such a group of corrupt, nearsighted politicians to the point where freedom is an inconvenience over them consolidating practically dictatorial power? And again, why does no one care?

It's a combination of unprecedented wealth (let's be honest, modern poverty in industrialized countries is nothing like it was back in the '50s) and the continuous rise of asymmetric warfare randomly deployed by psychopaths. In Sydney, the "cafe kidnap" attack is still fresh in everyone's mind. We've had bombs in London and Madrid, plus a number of other scares, and when a population feels threatened, they'll typically hand power to the first dictator with a minimum of skill. As long as we're free to buy porn and videogames, most people just don't care.
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