Salesforce won't travel to Indiana over religious freedom law

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Post by blackhole » Thu, Mar 26, 2015, 8:15 PM UTC

Salesforce won't travel to Indiana over religious freedom law
indystar.com

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Post by Havoc » Thu, Mar 26, 2015, 8:33 PM UTC

What with that website...its literally 2 layers of popups and sidebars and ads covering the text? Close & move on...

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Post by keehun » Thu, Mar 26, 2015, 8:34 PM UTC

I support the seemingly-exaggerated response of Salesforce. In a risk of starting a religious flame war, I don't understand those of faith who discriminate against anyone else for any reason. Jesus called on His believers to love your neighbors as you love yourself. "There are no commandments greater than these" (from Mark 12)

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Post by mariuolo » Thu, Mar 26, 2015, 8:36 PM UTC

I see an opportunity for less principled firms.

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Post by shaftoe » Thu, Mar 26, 2015, 8:36 PM UTC

keehun wrote: post #3

I support the seemingly-exaggerated response of Salesforce. In a risk of starting a religious flame war, I don't understand those of faith who discriminate against anyone else for any reason. Jesus called on His believers to love your neighbors as you love yourself. "There are no commandments greater than these" (from Mark 12)

I don't understand how forcing people to do business, under penalty of law, is promoting "tolerance."

I also don't understand creating these laws and then creating loopholes for pet causes. People are either free to associate and disassociate or they are not.

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Post by zrail » Thu, Mar 26, 2015, 8:37 PM UTC

Here's some more coverage from CNN (NCAA-focused but talks about Salesforce and GenCon):

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/25/politics/mike-pence-religious-...

Tweets from Marc Benioff (CEO of Salesforce):

https://twitter.com/Benioff/status/581108959337136129

https://twitter.com/Benioff/status/581118618127101953

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Post by api » Thu, Mar 26, 2015, 8:37 PM UTC

keehun wrote: post #3

I support the seemingly-exaggerated response of Salesforce. In a risk of starting a religious flame war, I don't understand those of faith who discriminate against anyone else for any reason. Jesus called on His believers to love your neighbors as you love yourself. "There are no commandments greater than these" (from Mark 12)

I also don't understand why things like homosexuality are orders of magnitude more important than all the other sins named in the Bible -- and often far more clearly and unambiguously.

You don't see Christians protesting outside credit card companies because they engage in usury, or against companies that make their employees work on Sundays, or for policies to help the poor, or anything else like that.

Ultimately what it comes down to is that ideology/religion is the cart, not the horse. People have prejudices and preconceived notions, then they cherry pick from their ideology of choice to rationalize them. People think gays are icky and weird, so they cherry pick from the Bible to support discrimination against them. But usury is profitable so they ignore those parts.

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Post by calgoo » Thu, Mar 26, 2015, 8:38 PM UTC

I love the answers to the twitter message from people that work for Salesforce, and live in Indiana asking if they can/ should move away.

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Post by wl » Thu, Mar 26, 2015, 8:38 PM UTC

keehun wrote: post #3

I support the seemingly-exaggerated response of Salesforce. In a risk of starting a religious flame war, I don't understand those of faith who discriminate against anyone else for any reason. Jesus called on His believers to love your neighbors as you love yourself. "There are no commandments greater than these" (from Mark 12)

I think you have to look at what motivated laws like this. In one famous example in Arizona, an anti-discrimination law penalized a wedding photographer who refused to work a same-sex wedding. It's not that people want the right to not serve gay people at Chick-fil-a.

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Post by indytechcook » Thu, Mar 26, 2015, 8:39 PM UTC

keehun wrote: post #3

I support the seemingly-exaggerated response of Salesforce. In a risk of starting a religious flame war, I don't understand those of faith who discriminate against anyone else for any reason. Jesus called on His believers to love your neighbors as you love yourself. "There are no commandments greater than these" (from Mark 12)

The motivation is fear. People have being using God to justify their own fear related actions for as long as we have history.