Things you should know about PHP 7
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Things you should know about PHP 7
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Re: Things you should know about PHP 7
#2Good to see PHP slowly improving, although I haven't used it for years now.
On a side note, does anyone know why Drupal 8 is apparently so absurdly slow? I know it's not entirely fair to compare against D7 as it's still technically "under development" but it just seems insane to take that much of a performance hit for nicer OOP semantics...
Re: Things you should know about PHP 7
#3TL;DR:
1. Scheduled to come out in Q4 2015
2. operator, see https://wiki.php.net/rfc/combined-comparison-operator
3. Return Type Declarations & Scalar Type Hints
4. Speed improvements (25-70%)
5. Yep, speed improvements are for real.
You're welcome.
Re: Things you should know about PHP 7
#4TL;DR: 1. Scheduled to come out in Q4 2015 2. operator, see https://wiki.php.net/rfc/combined-comparison-operator 3. Return Type Declarations & Scalar Type Hints 4. Speed improvements (25-70%) 5. Yep, speed improvements are for real. You're welcome.
> 1. Scheduled to come out in Q4 2015
... and available on general cheap webhosting sometime around 2020. If we're lucky.
Thank god our company slowly moved away from building small PHP websites that have to run on the most fucked up PHP installations from the before-time. Now it's PHP 5.6+ everywhere :-)
Re: Things you should know about PHP 7
#5Good to see PHP slowly improving, although I haven't used it for years now. On a side note, does anyone know why Drupal 8 is apparently so absurdly slow? I know it's not entirely fair to compare against D7 as it's still technically "under development" but it just seems insane to take that much of a performance hit for nicer OOP semantics...
I'd say it's to do with having been rebuilt with Symfony components. That's not to say symfony is, by necessity, slow, but I going to guess that completeness and stability was first for such a big change before performance. But... that's just a guess.
Re: Things you should know about PHP 7
#6TL;DR: 1. Scheduled to come out in Q4 2015 2. operator, see https://wiki.php.net/rfc/combined-comparison-operator 3. Return Type Declarations & Scalar Type Hints 4. Speed improvements (25-70%) 5. Yep, speed improvements are for real. You're welcome.
> 1. Scheduled to come out in Q4 2015 ... and available on general cheap webhosting sometime around 2020. If we're lucky. Thank god our company slowly moved away from building small PHP websites that have to run on the most fucked up PHP installations from the before-time. Now it's PHP 5.6+ everywhere :-)
>... and available on general cheap webhosting sometime around 2020. If we're lucky.
Shared Hosting needs to die off anyway.
Re: Things you should know about PHP 7
#7TL;DR: 1. Scheduled to come out in Q4 2015 2. operator, see https://wiki.php.net/rfc/combined-comparison-operator 3. Return Type Declarations & Scalar Type Hints 4. Speed improvements (25-70%) 5. Yep, speed improvements are for real. You're welcome.
So 1 is not a feature, 4 & 5 are the same thing (and maybe a consequence of 3) while 2 can be remplaced by a single function.
Seems like the only new feature are type hints. Looks like Hack has been rebranded as PHP 7.
Re: Things you should know about PHP 7
#8Good to see PHP slowly improving, although I haven't used it for years now. On a side note, does anyone know why Drupal 8 is apparently so absurdly slow? I know it's not entirely fair to compare against D7 as it's still technically "under development" but it just seems insane to take that much of a performance hit for nicer OOP semantics...
Drupal 8 is being developed in the Symfony framework. You may have been exposed to a deployment running in development mode (app_dev.php in the URL is a good sign even if not a necessity).
Once the debug flag is turned off, Symfony won't check the freshness of the dependency container as well as templates, bootstrap caches, etc. (you clear the cache manually in production.)
As to what the Drupal devs may have added on top of the framework, I have no idea. Being a generic CMS, I presume their abstractions are a little bit overengineered.
Re: Things you should know about PHP 7
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
> 1. Scheduled to come out in Q4 2015 ... and available on general cheap webhosting sometime around 2020. If we're lucky. Thank god our company slowly moved away from building small PHP websites that have to run on the most fucked up PHP installations from the before-time. Now it's PHP 5.6+ everywhere :-)
>... and available on general cheap webhosting sometime around 2020. If we're lucky. Shared Hosting needs to die off anyway.
Why?
Re: Things you should know about PHP 7
#10TL;DR: 1. Scheduled to come out in Q4 2015 2. operator, see https://wiki.php.net/rfc/combined-comparison-operator 3. Return Type Declarations & Scalar Type Hints 4. Speed improvements (25-70%) 5. Yep, speed improvements are for real. You're welcome.
So 1 is not a feature, 4 & 5 are the same thing (and maybe a consequence of 3) while 2 can be remplaced by a single function. Seems like the only new feature are type hints. Looks like Hack has been rebranded as PHP 7.
Well, the biggest issue with PHP in my opinion was the interpreter. Let's cut the cost of function calls by 90%, and PHP would be back in the game of performant languages.