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How the New York Times keeps tragedies ad-free

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Re: How the New York Times keeps tragedies ad-free

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post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if the NYT meta header is just a similar flag leaking out, or if it is something that can be abused client side to never have ads. It's totally unsurprising that it would be a CMS feature, I'm a little taken aback each time I see a crass juxtaposition on smaller sites (more out of surprise at them not doing it than any particular personal sensitivity to it).

I took a look at the first result that popped up ( http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/26/world/europe/germanwings-a... ) and interestingly, this ad_sensitivity tag is set to "tragedy". I'm curious to know what other options there are now - whether this is boolean, or a sliding scale.

The options are:

- Show ads - No ads - Tragedy

Re: How the New York Times keeps tragedies ad-free

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This is '9/11 preparedness' to a certain extent. Remember when that happened how there were no adverts anywhere for a week or so? The music changed too, no 'John Lennon' songs were played for a while. This does need to be fine grained. Although the UK is adjacent to France and Germany the current disaster is not nationally significant in the UK in that there will not be days of mourning, people being quiet for two mi…

No John Lennon songs?

Re: How the New York Times keeps tragedies ad-free

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post #42

This is '9/11 preparedness' to a certain extent. Remember when that happened how there were no adverts anywhere for a week or so? The music changed too, no 'John Lennon' songs were played for a while. This does need to be fine grained. Although the UK is adjacent to France and Germany the current disaster is not nationally significant in the UK in that there will not be days of mourning, people being quiet for two mi…

No John Lennon songs?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Clear_Channel_memorandum

Re: How the New York Times keeps tragedies ad-free

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post #27

> it’s almost an acknowledgement that ads are invasive and uncomfortable. They cross over into the intolerable range when we’re emotionally vulnerable from a tragic story. Is it really this, or is it that advertisers don't want their brand associated with negativity in general? How they're doing it is interesting, but I think the analysis is weird.

Agreed. It would be highly inappropriate to introduce a TV news story about a fatal crash with "Happy Monday!" and that's not because wishing people a good day is invasive. It's just not appropriate for that story.

http://thebarking.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Krem.jpg

Re: How the New York Times keeps tragedies ad-free

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post #23

Typically there'll be a CMS flag available to powerful users (editors). That's how it works at the Guardian. It sets a boolean (shouldHideAdverts) in our content API[0], which we use in templates[1] to suppress commercial logic. There are obvious business reasons for this. It's common for it not to be in the advertiser or reader's interest to show commercial messages against some content. [0] http://content.guardiana…

I wonder if the NYT meta header is just a similar flag leaking out, or if it is something that can be abused client side to never have ads. It's totally unsurprising that it would be a CMS feature, I'm a little taken aback each time I see a crass juxtaposition on smaller sites (more out of surprise at them not doing it than any particular personal sensitivity to it).

Well I can think of another readily-available client-side option to avoid seeing ads.

It's unlikely that the meta tag itself has any real relevance - some aspect of the CMS might be coopted for this purpose and I imagine its original intent was for injecting meta tags.

Re: How the New York Times keeps tragedies ad-free

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post #9

> it’s almost an acknowledgement that ads are invasive and uncomfortable. They cross over into the intolerable range when we’re emotionally vulnerable from a tragic story. Is it really this, or is it that advertisers don't want their brand associated with negativity in general? How they're doing it is interesting, but I think the analysis is weird.

How may articles are actually positive in a newspaper? IMO advertisers understand that contents making people angry (like politics, mostly) or sad will drive most of the page views, and are OK with some level of negativity. Tragedies directly affecting their potential customers is just a bridge too far. For comparison, discussion on afghanistan and air strikes is OK: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/25/world/asia/ashra…

It's more an issue of perceived insensitivity, even though it's happening at an entirely programmatic (and usually random) level.

Re: How the New York Times keeps tragedies ad-free

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> it’s almost an acknowledgement that ads are invasive and uncomfortable. They cross over into the intolerable range when we’re emotionally vulnerable from a tragic story. Is it really this, or is it that advertisers don't want their brand associated with negativity in general? How they're doing it is interesting, but I think the analysis is weird.

A couple years ago I read an article about a fatal shooting the previous night, next to an ad for The Killers [0] in concert at a nearby venue.

[0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Killers

Re: How the New York Times keeps tragedies ad-free

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post #41
post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I took a look at the first result that popped up ( http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/26/world/europe/germanwings-a... ) and interestingly, this ad_sensitivity tag is set to "tragedy". I'm curious to know what other options there are now - whether this is boolean, or a sliding scale.

The options are: - Show ads - No ads - Tragedy

Do you know the difference between tha latter two?
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