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Post by bigdealjim »

IkmoIkmo wrote: post #160
anupshinde wrote: post #150

I started working from home as an employee and then moved out of the job to be an independent consultant working from home. I enjoyed the freedom, there was so much I could do apart from work after saving on daily travel and lesser restriction on time. Slowly, it turned the other way round - I got shut-in. Started from not having to go to local store daily - because it was a waste of time. I could not relate to a cal…

Oh god this is so familiar. Work from home, too, pays the bills just fine but I've lost any semblance of schedule. Barely need to go out anymore, just for groceries but my gf who goes out daily and loves to cook likes to do this part, only occasionally do I run to the store to get some things for her. So I barely get out. Been meaning to go out on a daily basis but I think I have DSPD [0] and so I tend to wake up lat…

This is crazy! I've never heard of DSPD before, but I've explained to my girlfriend several times (as recently as a couple weeks ago) that no matter what time I go to bed, I don't really fall into a deep sleep, or fall asleep at all, until around 4am. I'll either be fully awake tossing and turning or I'll have a really light sleep. I'll wake up by myself around 11:30 or noon.

I have the same guilt about it as you do, and I'm a total baby about being woken up early. It's been this way my whole life.

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Post by gknoy »

ars wrote: post #153
IkmoIkmo wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Does she see these messages you are writing? Nope, unless she tries to find it. HN is in my favorites and it auto-logins. But she's really not the type for that. I think it'd be pretty painful to read although she knows the bulk of it. > It's a bit of an odd suggestions, but consider having kids. Still 24, so that'd be really early for us, not something I'd love to have so early in my life (although I can imagine h…

> I think it'd be pretty painful to read although she knows the bulk of it. Personally I think she should, but of course I don't really know anything about her. > Still 24, so that'd be really early for us I don't think 24 is especially young. Maybe a drop younger than typical, but you seem to have good earning potential, and someone you love. What more do you need? It has advantages too - you have more energy when y…

  What matters is how you raise them, not why they were born
While that's likely true, I think it's also wise to consider that it is probably unwise to consider "having kids" as a _solution_ to a problem. Having kids is signing up for a half decade of never sleeping the same way again, never having "you" time easily, etc. It's a mountain of stress on both parents, and should not be entered into lightly -- else how will one manage to raise the kids well?

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Post by venomsnake »

JohnBooty wrote: post #91

I don't feel like ordering things online makes me a shut-in at all - just the opposite. I work a lot, and by spending less time on the drudgery of brick-and-mortar shopping, I have more time to spend on the things that matter to me. Including socializing. Yeah, maybe I leave the house less, but are those trips to the store really "quality time?" Making a run to Wal-Mart or the supermarket to buy toilet paper is time…

With no knead bread, sous vide, a pressure cooker, and a tiny bit of planning you can have from scratch meals with less than 5 minutes hands on time per day.

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Post by rlucas »

venomsnake wrote: post #173
JohnBooty wrote: post #91

I don't feel like ordering things online makes me a shut-in at all - just the opposite. I work a lot, and by spending less time on the drudgery of brick-and-mortar shopping, I have more time to spend on the things that matter to me. Including socializing. Yeah, maybe I leave the house less, but are those trips to the store really "quality time?" Making a run to Wal-Mart or the supermarket to buy toilet paper is time…

With no knead bread, sous vide, a pressure cooker, and a tiny bit of planning you can have from scratch meals with less than 5 minutes hands on time per day.

best troll ever

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Post by raverbashing »

Yes, I'm afraid the world is going on a direction where there will be two kinds of people: those serving coffee at Starbucks and those going there to order coffee and work off their laptops.

(Or maybe it's even worse and they'll stay at home and order their cups online)

It's a dystopian analogy, but one that's sounding more real every day.

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Post by kilbuz »

jaza wrote: post #114

It's an eye-opener to me, seeing the extremes at which this way of life has apparently arrived... for one group of people in one place in the whole world. Seriously, this article pretends all of humanity in 2015 lives this way. It doesn't! There are approx. 7 billion people outside the Bay Area bubble universe! (Perhaps the author, a resident of the bubble herself, has forgotten this?). Sure makes me feel old-fashion…

Many anecdotes here, and no real data. Much like all of the world does not live this way, I assure you all of SF does not live this way.

As one who does "get out" from time to time, I can assure you there are a healthy number of people socializing all over the city. There are also plenty of people who make the most of the outdoors. Try visiting a well-marked trail within 20 miles of SF on a weekend. Not exactly "away from it all."

Agree with you that this article picks a very narrow view and creates false dichotomies.

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Post by initself »

hoboon wrote: post #24

This is how I feel. I don't watch TV for hours like I did as a child. What I do now is worse; stay in doors programming, browsing the web aimlessly, or staring at the ceiling. I don't blame my internet lifestyle for this really, but I literally don't know what else to do and the internet is so accommodating to me being a shut-in. I know I'm wasting my life but I don't know how to stop. San Francisco is a beautiful ci…

Perhaps meditation is what you need, so you can enjoy the un-ending present AND grow as a person! http://dhamma.org

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Post by 3pt14159 »

nahname wrote: post #125
JohnBooty wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's the one! $60/week for three meals for two. More expensive than groceries but cheaper than dining out! The meals take about 20-30 minutes to prepare and cook. It's been working for us.

I'm spending over $100 a week per person right now on groceries. Really goes to show how expensive food is in Canada.

Where do you live? In TO I spend about $70/week and I eat pretty healthy. Salmon, avocados, lentils, eggs, salad, yogurt, apples, milk, chicken, oatmeal, sweet potatoes, etc.

Edit: I also only buy humane meat, and organic eggs.

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Post by derwiki »

zkhalique wrote: post #42

Think about all this specialization. This is what a "good economy" looks like. Parents who work long hours so they can afford to rent some great apartment and buy stuff for their family. They outsource a lot of the childcare to professional nannies or whoever. They outsource a lot of the elder care to nursing homes etc. People are getting married later in life so they can focus on their career. Individualism, kids mo…

I have a birthday in ~24 hours. I plan to deactivate Facebook in ~12 hours and leave it off for a day or two.

Re: The Shut-In Economy

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Post by derwiki »

Afforess wrote: post #70

I guess call me crazy, but I really enjoy chores. They aren't always pleasent, but they are a diversion. I can listen to NPR podcasts while grocery shopping. I catch up on the "Stuff you should know" podcast while cleaning and vacuuming my apartment. And I enjoy a walk around the area in the evenings when the weather is nice out. The diversions are where I can really think. I often have too many distractions at the c…

I miss having a lawn to mow -- it always had a meditative quality for me.
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