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Turn off chat. Nothing is forced onto you.
I never even turned it on. Since they split messenger off I can no longer read read messages on my cellphone...without installing a separate app. Functionality that worked perfectly fine previously until they decided to disable to force messenger onto people. http://techcrunch.com/2014/07/28/facebook-moving-messages/
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Turn off chat. Nothing is forced onto you.
I never even turned it on. Since they split messenger off I can no longer read read messages on my cellphone...without installing a separate app. Functionality that worked perfectly fine previously until they decided to disable to force messenger onto people. http://techcrunch.com/2014/07/28/facebook-moving-messages/
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Turn off chat. Nothing is forced onto you.
I never even turned it on. Since they split messenger off I can no longer read read messages on my cellphone...without installing a separate app. Functionality that worked perfectly fine previously until they decided to disable to force messenger onto people. http://techcrunch.com/2014/07/28/facebook-moving-messages/
Sigh , yet another nail in the XMPP coffin, at least as far as the general public is concerned. Remember when we had ICQ, and AIM, and MSN Messenger, and Gadu-Gadu, and we were dreaming of a unified messaging system?
Also it is worth mentioning that Google Talk !== Google Hangouts Everyone who uses XMPP/iMessage/Adium to connect to Google Talk is: 1) Apparently missing some messages from Hangouts users. Haven't been able to track it down but it's gotten me in trouble with my girlfriend a few times for "ignoring her" 2) Your friends see you as "Online" on hangouts and send you messages, which often seem to relate to #1 (you never…
setup a ejabberd server on a beaglebone and put a web xmpp client on it. encrypt the shit out of everything, get your friends on to it. i'm sure there's valid business reasons to kill xmpp, not just total information awareness pressures from above.
To play devil's advocate, what part of the XMPP protocol is dated, that doesn't allow Facebook and Google to continue using it? Maybe if there's a way to update XMPP to include features that shared amongst these services, they can fall back to using it?
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Directly via the graph api. Simpler than xmpp. Someone recently posted a graph api chat example.
Do we know if Adium/pidgin are likely to update to use that API, or is it too early to say?
I echo other sentiments here: what exactly is broken about XMPP that companies keep moving away?
Also it is worth mentioning that Google Talk !== Google Hangouts Everyone who uses XMPP/iMessage/Adium to connect to Google Talk is: 1) Apparently missing some messages from Hangouts users. Haven't been able to track it down but it's gotten me in trouble with my girlfriend a few times for "ignoring her" 2) Your friends see you as "Online" on hangouts and send you messages, which often seem to relate to #1 (you never…
I think people don't realize just how unreliable the major messaging networks are. There was a Reddit thread a year or so ago where some folks who worked in the telecom industry said that they shoot for a 98% delivery rate with SMS, i.e. one in every 50 SMS messages will just get lost. I've personally experienced arriving at a friends' house, sending them a text to let them know I'm there, waiting 10 minutes, knocking on the door, and then 20 minutes later, while I'm in the car with them, my own text message finally arrives.
Sigh , yet another nail in the XMPP coffin, at least as far as the general public is concerned. Remember when we had ICQ, and AIM, and MSN Messenger, and Gadu-Gadu, and we were dreaming of a unified messaging system?
Now we have twice as many incompatible services. And still dreaming. :/
This is why I want to make a Free Hardware cell phone. I have made one wireless product already and wrote the frequency hopping stack myself, but something like a phone needs better data rates and a more advanced protocol.
Still, I dream of a simple cell phone that runs vanilla linux and has apps for IRC, XMPP, and the other functions you would want. The key component would be that the protocol would be designed from the ground up to respect user privacy, including a "broadcast" mode for towers where certain low data rate data channels are streamed without requiring any transmission from the handset. Then you could follow IRC or twitter during a protest without any risk of being probed for your location.
The protocol would also be built with anonymity in mind as much as possible, so phones would route data using rolling anonymous ID numbers and spoofing location could perhaps be trivial for plausible deniability (unless that opens up a vector for DoS).
I met the "Game of Drones" guys last night and they seemed interested in my wireless. I can only do 1km at 20kbps with current boards and 10km at 20kbps with amplified boards, but I think they might be interested in a solution that would work for FPV and that could be a good excuse to develop something that would also work for a cell phone.
I am 100% Free Hardware all the way, so maybe your dreams can come true eventually. :)
Alternative to your desktop client. http://www.goofyapp.com/
I found out about Goofy a couple of months ago and when I'm at my desk, I don't have to use my phone at all for messaging (except for whatsapp). Now I'd wish someone would do the same for Gmail chat / Hangouts, or maybe a way to combine all the webviews into one ;)