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Netflix, Amazon and Hulu No Longer Find Themselves Upstarts in Online Streaming
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#22As a consumer, I don't like the direction where streaming services are headed - many small services with limited content (original or not). I've been a Netflix customer for years now (I also had Hulu Plus, cancelled it due to their then-horrendous interface). While in the past I was very impressed with Netflix's selection, I now find it... meh, despite all the original content. When I pay Netflix, it's not for one, t…
Minor point: for some of us, HBO costs more than $15/month to add to our cable bills. (For me it is ~$21/month!)
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#23As a consumer, I don't like the direction where streaming services are headed - many small services with limited content (original or not). I've been a Netflix customer for years now (I also had Hulu Plus, cancelled it due to their then-horrendous interface). While in the past I was very impressed with Netflix's selection, I now find it... meh, despite all the original content. When I pay Netflix, it's not for one, t…
That's exactly why the cable guys have been saying that bundling is the most economic option for consumers that want a large content catalog. As content creators stand up their own streaming services they'll begin to pull their content from third party streaming services (see Starz/Netflix). Consumers will eventually have two choices: purchase a very small subset of services directly from providers or go back to the…
I wonder if there is a third way, just not consuming content. As netflix becomes narrower as well as others in the space, could it led to a natural dry out of media? If I'm trained to not really use Netflix, but I already learned to get rid of cable bundles, I think I'll look to spend my time somewhere else.
I'm already doing this. For the most part I don't want to watch Netflix. I watch because my wife watches. I'm on my phone most of the time the TV is going.
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#24Ok, so long-term participants aren't new anymore.
What's much more interesting is the death of the "long tail service" which attracted so many to these services in the first place: the implicit promise that their goal was to provide _everything_ in their catalogs, meaning you could give up buying media outright because they'd have & host whatever you could want. ...then others saw how very much money Netflix et al were making, and either raised their licensing costs/terms or made their own streaming services focused on some feature other than "long tail".
Re: Netflix, Amazon and Hulu No Longer Find Themselves Upstarts in Online Streaming
#25As a consumer, I don't like the direction where streaming services are headed - many small services with limited content (original or not). I've been a Netflix customer for years now (I also had Hulu Plus, cancelled it due to their then-horrendous interface). While in the past I was very impressed with Netflix's selection, I now find it... meh, despite all the original content. When I pay Netflix, it's not for one, t…
That's exactly why the cable guys have been saying that bundling is the most economic option for consumers that want a large content catalog. As content creators stand up their own streaming services they'll begin to pull their content from third party streaming services (see Starz/Netflix). Consumers will eventually have two choices: purchase a very small subset of services directly from providers or go back to the…
How long until someone provides a bundling service? For just $50/mo they'll give you Netflix/HBO/Discovery/PBS/etc thru a single interface.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Totally agreed. The other thing that frustrates me with Netflix et al. is how much better they could be if we had sane copyright terms. At a length of 30 years, which seems quite reasonable to me, we could have the classic cinema of the 70s easily available by now, rather than relying on Netflix or Amazon to renegotiate streaming deals every couple of years. Hell, even with 50 years we'd be getting something -- the a…
But the copyright holders are organizations which are very much alive. Copyright does and should expire after some number of years post death of original rights holders if they're individuals. We need copyright law upgrades, especially for digital media, like removing geographic territories which are traditionally negotiated region by region. That is insane when you're talking 1s and 0s and www distribution.
> But the copyright holders are organizations which are very much alive
According to some views they're alive ;)
> Copyright does and should expire after some number of years post death of original rights holders if they're individuals.
Unless it gets retroactively extended again.
But that brings us back to "securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries" (emphasis mine)...
Why should works be excluded from the public domain for (nearly || more than) a century?
If anything, we should have _shorter_ copyright terms now. Or at least have manual renewal requirements with fees that increase geometrically with respect to time passed since original publication. Works that are no longer worth retaining the monopoly on fall into the public domain where they can improve the commons, while works that are still (like Mickey Mouse) generating hefty profits for their owners can continue to be renewed until the cost is too onerous.
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#27As a consumer, I don't like the direction where streaming services are headed - many small services with limited content (original or not). I've been a Netflix customer for years now (I also had Hulu Plus, cancelled it due to their then-horrendous interface). While in the past I was very impressed with Netflix's selection, I now find it... meh, despite all the original content. When I pay Netflix, it's not for one, t…
Not every company will be able to do this.
HBO Currently costs 17/month + a cable subscription locally. Why should the streaming version be cheaper?
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
> many small services with limited content (original or not) UK customer here, totally agree. Add to that the frustration of time limits on how long content is available for. I'm dawdling my way through Alias, just started s03, but Amazon emailed me today to say it's going away on April 12th. Multiple devices, or device lock-in - I have a Roku 3, it'll do Netflix, BBC iPlayer, NowTV and Google Play. But I need to buy…
My Roku does Amazon... did that change in newer models? As far as I know it's Android that Amazon refuses to support for VOD (because they're trying to push their half-assed Kindle Fire line of Android knockoffs). Which is unfortunate because I had been a heavy purchaser of Amazon VOD season passes (not Prime)--back in the days before streaming you could set it up to auto download to TiVo as new episodes were release…
They support Android too. It works through the Amazon store app.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's exactly why the cable guys have been saying that bundling is the most economic option for consumers that want a large content catalog. As content creators stand up their own streaming services they'll begin to pull their content from third party streaming services (see Starz/Netflix). Consumers will eventually have two choices: purchase a very small subset of services directly from providers or go back to the…
I wonder if there is a third way, just not consuming content. As netflix becomes narrower as well as others in the space, could it led to a natural dry out of media? If I'm trained to not really use Netflix, but I already learned to get rid of cable bundles, I think I'll look to spend my time somewhere else. I'm already doing this. For the most part I don't want to watch Netflix. I watch because my wife watches. I'm…
The average American watches 34 hours of TV a week. Keep in mind: the HN audience is not representative of your average American. I don't think the media companies are too worried about a natural dry out.
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#30Ok, so long-term participants aren't new anymore. What's much more interesting is the death of the "long tail service" which attracted so many to these services in the first place: the implicit promise that their goal was to provide _everything_ in their catalogs, meaning you could give up buying media outright because they'd have & host whatever you could want. ...then others saw how very much money Netflix et al we…
This is partly what makes Redbox is so infuriatingly frustrating. Netflix DVDs are in awful shape and waits for the "long tail" disks are insane.
I really can't get behind the online rentals because they feel like Blockbuster-style ripoffs. At the same time that I can rent a new release from Redbox for $1.50, streaming wants to charging $4 for the exact same show.
Public library inter-library requests are becoming the only answer anymore but it's so much freaking friction. And the local public library late fee policies here would make 90's Blockbuster look like saints...
And I'm getting really, really tired of the Netflix streaming new releases being exactly the same movies that are concurrently playing free on the HDTV subchannel broadcasts (ThisTV, BounceTV, etc) or on Crackle. Netflix doesn't have commercials, whoopee, I guess. That's only an issue because stupid streaming sites don't allow ad fastforwards (which a DVR handles wonderfully)
And while I'm ranting, who at Sony thought that anyone pushing the eject button on a Bluray player wants to stand around twiddling their thumbs while the player mines a bitcoin block or whatever it's doing before spitting out the tray? Sorry, I digress.