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IntelliJ IDEA 14.1

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Re: IntelliJ IDEA 14.1

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Post by baldfat »

vetinari wrote: post #27
contergan wrote: post #16

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I would agree, if IntelliJ's performance wasn't so bad. On my 2012 MBA I had to turn off the auto completion, because otherwise, just typing text into the editor would make the fans run on full speed and lead to stuttering and hang-ups. So, unfortunately for performance reasons, I had to switch back to Sublime Text.

The target audience for MBA is not workstation/professional users, for that it was underpowered when it launchaed (current Macbook is the same). That's fine, because the normal or mainstream user does not need that much power to browse facebook and ebay. On my 2012 Thinkpad T-series (8 GB RAM, SSD, shitty display) Idea runs very nicely (Java, Python). But then, we cannot compare Thinkpad and MBA, as they are entirely…

To be fair, I use auto complete with my 5 year old netbook in VIM and Kate with auto complete and it doesn't slow down. I also run RStudio (occasionally) and it has a slight slow down. Intellij slows only a little more and is usable with my old netbook.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA 14.1

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Post by brianwawok »

amyjess wrote: post #26
sz4kerto wrote: post #15

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It depends on the language you're using (working with Scala is usually slow). Also, make sure that IntelliJ caches are on an SSD. VS is very quick, but for example parsing C# is very easy compared to Scala (partly because C# was designed for that from day zero). Maven also slows down things a bit (IntelliJ can search in classes that are not even referenced by the project.)

I gave up on IntelliJ and went back to NetBeans because of the bass-ackwards way IntelliJ handles Maven projects. There's no need for both IntelliJ's project file and the POM to track dependencies. In fact, there's no need for IntelliJ to maintain its own project file at all outside the POM.

Where does the POM specify the path to the JDK you should use to compile with?

Where does the POM specify the project specific code formatting you want to use?

Where does the POM specify the exact JVM flags and params given to various launch configs?

Re: IntelliJ IDEA 14.1

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Post by jgrowl »

contergan wrote: post #16
sz4kerto wrote: post #13

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It might look much worse than Sublime Text on your Macbook when you're sitting in a coffee shop sipping your vanilla frappucino. However, apart from VS it's _the_ IDE to get things done when working with large and complex codebase. (I'm talking about multi-million LOCs, where a method rename takes 1 second in IntelliJ, and you can be pretty sure that it has properly checked out the files, put the changes into the pro…

I would agree, if IntelliJ's performance wasn't so bad. On my 2012 MBA I had to turn off the auto completion, because otherwise, just typing text into the editor would make the fans run on full speed and lead to stuttering and hang-ups. So, unfortunately for performance reasons, I had to switch back to Sublime Text.

I am probably working with smaller code-bases than you, but I've never had this problem with auto-completion causing intellij to hang on my mba. I'm pretty sure it is a 2011 model too. shrug

Re: IntelliJ IDEA 14.1

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Post by mark_l_watson »

duiker101 wrote: post #30

I'll go against the flow of people not happy about IntelliJ. My experience with it started with Android Studio which I found WAY better than eclipse. I like the UI better, I find it faster, easier and more configurable. Since then I started using IntelliJ products for everything, there are flavour for any environment you need, from Python to ruby or whatever. I can keep my settings in any context and there are tool f…

I totally agree. I have purchased licenses for IntelliJ, RubyMine, and PyCharm for years.

That said, 90% of the time I spend using Jetbrains projects is now simply using IntelliJ to edit Clojure and Clojurescript files. I run repls externally, and setup shortcuts for use with :reload or :reload-all. As a Clojure editor I like the fast code navigation, autocomplete, and visual warnings of syntax errors.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA 14.1

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Post by konradb »

mark_l_watson wrote: post #44
duiker101 wrote: post #30

I'll go against the flow of people not happy about IntelliJ. My experience with it started with Android Studio which I found WAY better than eclipse. I like the UI better, I find it faster, easier and more configurable. Since then I started using IntelliJ products for everything, there are flavour for any environment you need, from Python to ruby or whatever. I can keep my settings in any context and there are tool f…

I totally agree. I have purchased licenses for IntelliJ, RubyMine, and PyCharm for years. That said, 90% of the time I spend using Jetbrains projects is now simply using IntelliJ to edit Clojure and Clojurescript files. I run repls externally, and setup shortcuts for use with :reload or :reload-all. As a Clojure editor I like the fast code navigation, autocomplete, and visual warnings of syntax errors.

Do you use Cursive? Last time I tried it I found some weird bugs in the text editing which caused problems for me. I very much wanted it to work though, I need to try it again.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA 14.1

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Post by rpcope1 »

sz4kerto wrote: post #15
nothrabannosir wrote: post #14

I'm using IntelliJ on Windows for Scala dev, and boy is it slow. I have to manually set the process priority to "Below Normal" every time, or it will soak up all system resources and music playback becomes jittery. Clicking right on anything is a four-second pause mistake. It's free, so I shouldn't be complaining. Thanks for the product! Really, it's better than vim (especially with the intellij vim-mode plugin). I a…

It depends on the language you're using (working with Scala is usually slow). Also, make sure that IntelliJ caches are on an SSD. VS is very quick, but for example parsing C# is very easy compared to Scala (partly because C# was designed for that from day zero). Maven also slows down things a bit (IntelliJ can search in classes that are not even referenced by the project.)

FYI if someone is reluctant to give up their HDD capacity at the price point an SSD exists, I've had really good luck with IDEA and Pycharm on my Seagate 2.5 1 TB Hybrid (ST1000LM014). I think they can be found on NewEgg for like $70 (for 1 TB), and work well for the sort of caching IDEA tends to do.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA 14.1

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Post by squeaky-clean »

mariusmg wrote: post #12
gecko wrote: post #7

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I disagree they're straight-up ugly , but they're certainly cluttered , and I think there's a very simple reason for that: IntelliJ (or VisualStudio, or Xcode, or anything in this class) is an expert tool. Expert tools can be insanely complex to use, and can have very steep learning curves, because the people who use them are willing and able to invest the time. In exchange, the tools assume that most users are going…

I disagree about having to look cluttered. Here's how my Visual Studio usually looks like http://i.imgur.com/imqiWGT.png

But they're cluttered by default. Visual Studio doesn't look like that with the default settings. Here's my Webstorm (same platform as IntelliJ, just limited to html/css/js) http://i.imgur.com/cHsAcj3.png

Re: IntelliJ IDEA 14.1

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Post by mark_l_watson »

konradb wrote: post #45
mark_l_watson wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I totally agree. I have purchased licenses for IntelliJ, RubyMine, and PyCharm for years. That said, 90% of the time I spend using Jetbrains projects is now simply using IntelliJ to edit Clojure and Clojurescript files. I run repls externally, and setup shortcuts for use with :reload or :reload-all. As a Clojure editor I like the fast code navigation, autocomplete, and visual warnings of syntax errors.

Do you use Cursive? Last time I tried it I found some weird bugs in the text editing which caused problems for me. I very much wanted it to work though, I need to try it again.

I install and use Cursive, occasionally, but I am waiting for it to ship as a product. Then I will probably buy it. The author has sent me a few emails, and seems dedicated to the project.

Re: IntelliJ IDEA 14.1

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Post by muraiki »

I'd love to use IntelliJ, but no matter what obscure hacks I try, I simply cannot get it to render fonts properly under Ubuntu 14.10. This makes me sad, because it seems awesome for Scala.
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