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Netflix, Amazon and Hulu No Longer Find Themselves Upstarts in Online Streaming

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As a consumer, I don't like the direction where streaming services are headed - many small services with limited content (original or not). I've been a Netflix customer for years now (I also had Hulu Plus, cancelled it due to their then-horrendous interface). While in the past I was very impressed with Netflix's selection, I now find it... meh, despite all the original content. When I pay Netflix, it's not for one, t…

Totally agreed.

The other thing that frustrates me with Netflix et al. is how much better they could be if we had sane copyright terms. At a length of 30 years, which seems quite reasonable to me, we could have the classic cinema of the 70s easily available by now, rather than relying on Netflix or Amazon to renegotiate streaming deals every couple of years. Hell, even with 50 years we'd be getting something -- the animation of the 40s, Hitchcock movies of the 50s, etc. But with copyright essentially infinite in duration now, things fall into obscurity though no easy way to distribute and obtain them. (OK, obviously anything Hitchcock is always going to be for sale, but you know what I mean.)

Think about how wide the selection of Netflix discs was, essentially through what some people call a "loophole".

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Can you read the article without subscribing/logging in? There are more and more posts like that. Damn

Did the original link change? I can read the article without logging in

No idea, I still cannot access it.

Only the header is fully exposed, everything else behind some semi-transparent overlay. It seems that on on initial page load everything was visible and then hidden with JS.

And there is a link behind overlay: "To see full article, subscribe here."

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Netflix seems to be very forward-looking at least with 4K already available. Still, I'd rather have a larger library of 720p content than fund a bunch of new mediocre shows. It's no surprise that everything is fragmenting into the new services proving that piracy will continue be the best option for the consumer.

I don't understand why anyone cares about Netflix 4K. Their regular HD video bitrate maxes out at 3.9Kbps, apparently.[1] Their "Super HD" takes you up to 6mpbs. OTA television signals are at 18mbps.[2] And Blu-Ray can go up to 40mbps.[3] Increasing the number of pixels without increasing the bitrate doesn't really fit any more actual picture info into the stream. 1) http://blog.streamingmedia.com/2013/09/netflix-dou…

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As a consumer, I don't like the direction where streaming services are headed - many small services with limited content (original or not). I've been a Netflix customer for years now (I also had Hulu Plus, cancelled it due to their then-horrendous interface). While in the past I was very impressed with Netflix's selection, I now find it... meh, despite all the original content. When I pay Netflix, it's not for one, t…

> many small services with limited content (original or not) UK customer here, totally agree. Add to that the frustration of time limits on how long content is available for. I'm dawdling my way through Alias, just started s03, but Amazon emailed me today to say it's going away on April 12th. Multiple devices, or device lock-in - I have a Roku 3, it'll do Netflix, BBC iPlayer, NowTV and Google Play. But I need to buy…

My Roku does Amazon... did that change in newer models?

As far as I know it's Android that Amazon refuses to support for VOD (because they're trying to push their half-assed Kindle Fire line of Android knockoffs). Which is unfortunate because I had been a heavy purchaser of Amazon VOD season passes (not Prime)--back in the days before streaming you could set it up to auto download to TiVo as new episodes were released. Roku works great for viewing Amazon VOD.

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As a consumer, I don't like the direction where streaming services are headed - many small services with limited content (original or not). I've been a Netflix customer for years now (I also had Hulu Plus, cancelled it due to their then-horrendous interface). While in the past I was very impressed with Netflix's selection, I now find it... meh, despite all the original content. When I pay Netflix, it's not for one, t…

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did the original link change? I can read the article without logging in

No idea, I still cannot access it. Only the header is fully exposed, everything else behind some semi-transparent overlay. It seems that on on initial page load everything was visible and then hidden with JS. And there is a link behind overlay: "To see full article, subscribe here."

You probably ran out of free views. NY Times requires a subscription but the first 10 articles per month can be viewed without paying.

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The streaming services created the a la carte programming people have wanted from cable companies. They don't have a choice, content owners don't want any of them to have too much bargaining power.

http://www.lazyfan.com

One big problem is the lack of a TV guide equivalent. I've been taking a crack at this problem and have a prototype for movies (TV shows are still TODO).

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As a consumer, I don't like the direction where streaming services are headed - many small services with limited content (original or not). I've been a Netflix customer for years now (I also had Hulu Plus, cancelled it due to their then-horrendous interface). While in the past I was very impressed with Netflix's selection, I now find it... meh, despite all the original content. When I pay Netflix, it's not for one, t…

Totally agreed. The other thing that frustrates me with Netflix et al. is how much better they could be if we had sane copyright terms. At a length of 30 years, which seems quite reasonable to me, we could have the classic cinema of the 70s easily available by now, rather than relying on Netflix or Amazon to renegotiate streaming deals every couple of years. Hell, even with 50 years we'd be getting something -- the a…

But the copyright holders are organizations which are very much alive. Copyright does and should expire after some number of years post death of original rights holders if they're individuals. We need copyright law upgrades, especially for digital media, like removing geographic territories which are traditionally negotiated region by region. That is insane when you're talking 1s and 0s and www distribution.

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As a consumer, I don't like the direction where streaming services are headed - many small services with limited content (original or not). I've been a Netflix customer for years now (I also had Hulu Plus, cancelled it due to their then-horrendous interface). While in the past I was very impressed with Netflix's selection, I now find it... meh, despite all the original content. When I pay Netflix, it's not for one, t…

Not to worry! Yes, we will end up with many different streaming services, each a walled garden of content. However, what if some provider were to just "bundle" all of them together for the modicum price of $100/month!? Then everyone wins! They could also throw in some ads... those content licenses sure are expensive! But hey, at least is not cable!
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