Message from Facebook: this could be war
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Message from Facebook: this could be war
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Re: Message from Facebook: this could be war
#2 Facebook is expected to say that it will turn its
app - called Messenger - which has 500m users, into
a "platform". That means others will be able to
develop software for it (for gaming, hotel bookings,
tickets and so on).
Doesn't FaceBook have form in encouraging people to use its interfaces and facilities, and then either cutting them off or starting to charge unexpectedly? I wonder what guarantees they will give that they will provide continuity of service.Certainly I'd be incorporating an exit strategy, and my game plan would be to leverage off FB to start with, to grow as fast as possible, develop my own community and eco-system, and then be able to shed FB and replace it with something else.
I wouldn't trust them.
But that's just me. I'm interested to see what the HN community thinks.
Re: Message from Facebook: this could be war
#3Facebook is expected to say that it will turn its app - called Messenger - which has 500m users, into a "platform". That means others will be able to develop software for it (for gaming, hotel bookings, tickets and so on). Doesn't FaceBook have form in encouraging people to use its interfaces and facilities, and then either cutting them off or starting to charge unexpectedly? I wonder what guarantees they will give t…
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#5At least the world has managed to have "Email" as a standard, a medium, that is not controlled by any huge corporation's grubby claws.
Why not with chat? What happened to this? Why is there a war for my data with these big companies, who do NOT have our best interests in mind, and never will?
Why can't we have a federated standard for chat, controlled by no one? It seems that we have come close at various times but it has never happened. Will it ever happen? Or is it already too late?
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#6Yesterday, after watching another one, my girlfriend commented: "Even Facebook is making ads now - this tells us a lot about how well things are going for them."
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#7This is so depressing. There's already a standard, interoperable, decentralized instant messaging protocol ( http://xmpp.org/ ). And it does things none of the competing walled gardens do, like real private conversations ( http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/OTR ). Why can't people just compete to produce the best user experience on top of XMPP?
Re: Message from Facebook: this could be war
#8Facebook is expected to say that it will turn its app - called Messenger - which has 500m users, into a "platform". That means others will be able to develop software for it (for gaming, hotel bookings, tickets and so on). Doesn't FaceBook have form in encouraging people to use its interfaces and facilities, and then either cutting them off or starting to charge unexpectedly? I wonder what guarantees they will give t…
But it is an obvious threat for the 'open web'. Look at what happened to email. My inbox is a great archive for my social life pre-2010, but since then it's just (some) business and lots of transactional mails. With email people had a choice of clients. With messenger you're stuck with whatever Facebook offers. Same with RSS vs. Twitter.
There's no immediate and direct harm, which is why it'll continue. It's comparable to the privatisation of public spaces. People used to meet on main street, now they go to the mall. The latter is more convenient, possibly cheaper and has the (5) starbucks you expect. There is no harm, unless you live on the sidelines of society: as a hobo, or, even worse, protester.
If only there were a business model for something like diaspora...
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#9This is so depressing. There's already a standard, interoperable, decentralized instant messaging protocol ( http://xmpp.org/ ). And it does things none of the competing walled gardens do, like real private conversations ( http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/OTR ). Why can't people just compete to produce the best user experience on top of XMPP?
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#10Ugh. At least the world has managed to have "Email" as a standard, a medium, that is not controlled by any huge corporation's grubby claws. Why not with chat? What happened to this? Why is there a war for my data with these big companies, who do NOT have our best interests in mind, and never will? Why can't we have a federated standard for chat, controlled by no one? It seems that we have come close at various times…
Spam, malware and phishing are huge problems with email. I doubt it will exist forever in its current form. I expect more and more restrictions (on sending and receiving) and more and more walled gardens as corporations and people attempt to better defend themselves.