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Slack Is Quietly, Unintentionally Killing IRC

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Re: Slack Is Quietly, Unintentionally Killing IRC

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As a long-time IRC fan/user/developer-of-chatbots, I wouldn't entirely mind if things transitioned to a proper successor. (The advantage of IRC is that it's extremely easy to work with/implement on a basic level. The disadvantage is edge cases and things like NickServ which, while not official, might as well be.) Slack seems well-positioned for this, but I'm still somewhat rooting for something more like Matrix ( htt…

It's a shame there wasn't widespread support for XMPP's XEP-0045 (http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0045.html). It was the closest thing to IRC that I believe could've made it the new communication powerhouse in its place with its adoption by Google and Facebook, among others. IRC is great but there's no denying it's dying. It's shed to 60% of its userbase since 2003. It's not gaining new users.

Matrix (http://matrix.org/) looks pretty good, but I feel that it's trying to fill a niche that isn't there. A simple, open (in terms of channels / rooms), chat protocol that doesn't have a complex barrier to entry would work wonders.

Re: Slack Is Quietly, Unintentionally Killing IRC

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As a counterpoint: I am in 78 IRC channels. I've never seen slack mentioned anywhere aside from here on hackernews. I suspect it's not actually converting any long-time users, but only being an effective draw on people who like the new and shiny.

I am a long time IRC user and I have been hanging out in the digital nomads slack channel. I've also used Slack at a couple of jobs.

Slack has nifty features like integration with tools, and inline gifs, etc. But the really nice thing is that it feels a little more human. Everyone knows that IRC turns people into jerks. Slack won't completely prevent that, but it does help to promote the feeling of community. It's made for teams, so it's kind of designed around it.

Re: Slack Is Quietly, Unintentionally Killing IRC

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The process of joining IRC (which comes naturally to us today), is actually really complicated for the non-techie. This is a good thing, because we value IRC for like-minded folk. It feels like we're part of a cult. I don't think many of us want the masses to come to IRC. IRC is a filter, so keep the Facebook/WhatsApp/Snapchat/etc. away.

Oh, and if Slack is making IRC redundant, KiwIRC, Mibbit, IRCloud and the rest are making it easily accessible.

grabs pitchfork

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