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Re: Sublime Text 3 Build 3080

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Sorry for bring this up , but this is my honest question , why should I use sublime ? what is specific about it ? Let me explain , If I wanna text editor there is Emacs ( and vim for vim user's ) , and if I want to have specific feature like IDE's have (auto complete , GUI debugger etc ) , then I can use Qt Creator/Code Blocks/etc (which I don't need , Because I am not IDE user) , then Why should I use sublime , It d…

IMHO, sublime is a lazy yet flexible editor, it has very fancy out-of-box experience, you don't have to download a lot of stuff from the internet and make your own customizations before you can finally gets started with what you intended to do few hours earlier. I know that both vim/emacs have very handy package manager, but they don't ship with vim/emacs.

Emacs's package manager does come with Emacs, starting with some recent version (I don't know which version, though).

Re: Sublime Text 3 Build 3080

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I have tried Atom, many many times. But i always get annoyed by how SLOW it is.

It's slow with huge source files, agreed, but you shouldn't have huge source files anyway.

Automatic code generators have a nasty habit of spitting out huge source and header files, I'm routinely digging around in such files (ASN.1 to C++, multiple files 10MB and up) and switching editors to do that would be completely unacceptable. It would be more of a hassle if the compiler split up the output.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Build 3080

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I'm reliefed that development progressed again this year. You don't want to invest time on a dead editor.

>You don't want to invest time on a dead editor.

And this is why it's important for your editor to be free software. Emacs isn't going anywhere, and they don't have unjust control over my computing.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Build 3080

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Honestly, I've never seen another product here getting a post for every minor build! Nice to see such a die-hard fan base! But, please, face the reality - many have moved over to Atom already and are not looking back. Atom is alive, the ecosystem is already huge, atom-shell is getting popular as well. Unless Sublime gets open-sourced, it's in a slow agony. Remember TextMate? It had a huge loyal user base, but who is…

I have tried Atom, many many times. But i always get annoyed by how SLOW it is.

Over the years I've gone back and forth between Sublime, vim and emacs. Atom is the first editor I really love. I've been using is for about a month now for serious haskell development. Yes it's still a bit slow to start up and a little buggy but it's not even at version 1.0 yet. I just really like the UI and the simplicity of installing and configuring packages.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Build 3080

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Sorry for bring this up , but this is my honest question , why should I use sublime ? what is specific about it ? Let me explain , If I wanna text editor there is Emacs ( and vim for vim user's ) , and if I want to have specific feature like IDE's have (auto complete , GUI debugger etc ) , then I can use Qt Creator/Code Blocks/etc (which I don't need , Because I am not IDE user) , then Why should I use sublime , It d…

Good question. From my perspective, it's a text editor done properly which doesn't get in your way. You almost don't feel it. Put it another way - there are very few annoyances that I've noticed about it. It's very fast, it's configurable, it takes me 2 minutes to set it up on a new machine and have the same environment, regardless of the OS. Here's a story: I've recently started learning Clojure and I've been lookin…

This sounds like a compelling way to get non-emacs users to start hacking clojure!

Then, sorry if it sounds nit-picky, but hacking some clojure with a split-screen and REPL is not just like emacs. Cider [1] has like a million features that elevate it above just a repl + code. Then there's clojure refactor mode [2] which lets you rename files and keep the namespaces in sync, unwind threaded forms, and 30+ other things.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Build 3080

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IMHO Sublime is like Sketchup.

Certainly there are more powerful tools (emacs and vim - or 3dMAX and Rhino, when comparing with Sketchup) but Sublime/Sketchup are so fast and easy to use from first day by amateurs and professionals making them very hard to beat.

I don't use them everyday but I can be quite productive with both. It would take ages to be productive with Emacs or 3dMAX using them only every other week.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Build 3080

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Sorry for bring this up , but this is my honest question , why should I use sublime ? what is specific about it ? Let me explain , If I wanna text editor there is Emacs ( and vim for vim user's ) , and if I want to have specific feature like IDE's have (auto complete , GUI debugger etc ) , then I can use Qt Creator/Code Blocks/etc (which I don't need , Because I am not IDE user) , then Why should I use sublime , It d…

I am using Sublime for programming and here is why i use it over Vim or Emacs or an IDE.

Vim is "way to go" editor for me on remote connections to server. But on my local machine, vim requires lots of configuration in order to let me be productive (at least for me). For example, Vim's regex engine is slow comparing to Sublime, which will be freezing for 2-3 seconds when you are doing some complex search and replace. This can be fixed by some config, but Sublime doesn't have this problem at all.

Sublime is easy to use from dummy programmers to experts. Not Emacs or Vim.

IDEs are mostly specific to a programming language, if not, they are memory hog to handle everything and takes around a minute to get ready for me to start typing code.

One of the best features of Sublime is that, it lets to decide if you want a text editor or a IDE like experience from it. Customise it however you want.

Of course it is not for everyone, I guess the best is to give it a try and see yourself.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Build 3080

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good question. From my perspective, it's a text editor done properly which doesn't get in your way. You almost don't feel it. Put it another way - there are very few annoyances that I've noticed about it. It's very fast, it's configurable, it takes me 2 minutes to set it up on a new machine and have the same environment, regardless of the OS. Here's a story: I've recently started learning Clojure and I've been lookin…

This sounds like a compelling way to get non-emacs users to start hacking clojure! Then, sorry if it sounds nit-picky, but hacking some clojure with a split-screen and REPL is not just like emacs. Cider [1] has like a million features that elevate it above just a repl + code. Then there's clojure refactor mode [2] which lets you rename files and keep the namespaces in sync, unwind threaded forms, and 30+ other things…

For those curious, escherize means:

[1] https://github.com/clojure-emacs/cider

[2] https://github.com/clojure-emacs/clj-refactor.el

The examples in [3] showcase the features of clj-refactor rather neatly.

[3] https://github.com/clojure-emacs/clj-refactor.el/tree/master...

Re: Sublime Text 3 Build 3080

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Sorry for bring this up , but this is my honest question , why should I use sublime ? what is specific about it ? Let me explain , If I wanna text editor there is Emacs ( and vim for vim user's ) , and if I want to have specific feature like IDE's have (auto complete , GUI debugger etc ) , then I can use Qt Creator/Code Blocks/etc (which I don't need , Because I am not IDE user) , then Why should I use sublime , It d…

If you're happy with emacs or vim then you probably shouldn't use it. Many people aren't comfortable with those two or prefer a mouse based approach without the overhead of an IDE in which case Sublime is a pretty good choice with lots of customizability and available plugins. Edit: For me I do my coding/most everything in vim but if I get a new project I have to learn about I find it much more easy to navigate an un…

Sublime's vim keybindings are fairly complete as well.
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