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Re: Sublime Text 3 Build 3080

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Post by chris-at »

tmikaeld wrote: post #6
kolev wrote: post #5

Honestly, I've never seen another product here getting a post for every minor build! Nice to see such a die-hard fan base! But, please, face the reality - many have moved over to Atom already and are not looking back. Atom is alive, the ecosystem is already huge, atom-shell is getting popular as well. Unless Sublime gets open-sourced, it's in a slow agony. Remember TextMate? It had a huge loyal user base, but who is…

I have tried Atom, many many times. But i always get annoyed by how SLOW it is.

I'm kind of glad that Atom is written in a language I seriously dislike, otherwise I might have spent a lot of time trying to help them improve it.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Build 3080

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Post by ashes2 »

I've been running the last stable build happily since August. Running this new build causes all four cores in my rmbp to spin up to 99% repeatedly (Activity Monitor says it's Sublime) and the fans to go wild. Is this happening to anyone else? I had to revert to the previous version which fixed it :(

Re: Sublime Text 3 Build 3080

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Post by kolev »

coldtea wrote: post #11
kolev wrote: post #5

Honestly, I've never seen another product here getting a post for every minor build! Nice to see such a die-hard fan base! But, please, face the reality - many have moved over to Atom already and are not looking back. Atom is alive, the ecosystem is already huge, atom-shell is getting popular as well. Unless Sublime gets open-sourced, it's in a slow agony. Remember TextMate? It had a huge loyal user base, but who is…

> But, please, face the reality - many have moved over to Atom already and are not looking back. I seriously doubt it. First, people kept using TextMate when it was dead for 3 years or so. The most ST3 has been idle was 6-7 months, and before and after that the update pace (for dev releases) was great. Second, it's not like anything major was missing from the editor even 2 years ago, or that it stopped working or any…

Atom is not that slow in practice... except the slow startup, for daily business it's fine - I'm using it with a full suite of linters and autocomplete plugins on the older MacBook Air and it's not laggy.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Build 3080

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Post by bdcravens »

amima wrote: post #17
coldtea wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Others too. But why you would assume that? The guy said he will be coming back with more, and the most delay between updates was like 8-9 months -- something that happens all the time for commercial projects where you might or might not see an update in 1 or even 2 years. In the last 2 months, he has been publishing an update dev release every 1 week or so.

August 2014 beta build was a really small update and the only one in year 2014. To be honest, my feeling also was that project has been abandoned. ST3 was silent for about a year and is supported by the single developer (as far as I understand it). No updates (except for one in August) in the times of Atom release, this looked like there was no more motivation for the Sublime Text developer. I am really happy that it…

It actually has been active the past few months, but builds were only being released for the dev channel (requiring an ST2 license)

Re: Sublime Text 3 Build 3080

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Post by microtonal »

jsprogrammer wrote: post #12
coldtea wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But, please, face the reality - many have moved over to Atom already and are not looking back. I seriously doubt it. First, people kept using TextMate when it was dead for 3 years or so. The most ST3 has been idle was 6-7 months, and before and after that the update pace (for dev releases) was great. Second, it's not like anything major was missing from the editor even 2 years ago, or that it stopped working or any…

Atom may always be slower, but the speed difference could eventually become negligible. If ST3, in it's current form, existed 20 years ago, people would have been making the same argument about Vim vs. ST3.

Actually, rendering is often faster in Sublime Text than in vim. I am a vim user and use the 'cursorline' and 'relativenumber' options and until recently I could notice rendering slowness on OS X and Linux. Things seem to have gotten better recently (either in vim or due to hardware advancing), but I never saw such slowness in Sublime text.

(I wanted to like Sublime and have a license, but Vintage mode is a too leaky abstraction/emulation for me ;).)

Re: Sublime Text 3 Build 3080

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Post by bdcravens »

kolev wrote: post #16
lambeosaurus wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried it once and had the same experience. I'm really just waiting to meet even a single person who uses it as their daily IDE in a work environment (or even at home - I still haven't seen that.) At that point I'll consider trying it again. I love the concept. Just not enamoured with the execution.

I am using Atom daily and I'm super happy. It's missing a thing or two from ST 3, but I got more than I had taken away, honestly. I have paid for Sublime unlike most here who gang up to silence me. I've bought a bunch of plugins for Sublime, too, so, I've invested more than $100 in the ecosystem.

I like Atom too, but the startup time between the 2 is night and day. I also get really odd Atom behavior, especially on full screen.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Build 3080

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Post by melling »

kolev wrote: post #23
coldtea wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But, please, face the reality - many have moved over to Atom already and are not looking back. I seriously doubt it. First, people kept using TextMate when it was dead for 3 years or so. The most ST3 has been idle was 6-7 months, and before and after that the update pace (for dev releases) was great. Second, it's not like anything major was missing from the editor even 2 years ago, or that it stopped working or any…

Atom is not that slow in practice... except the slow startup, for daily business it's fine - I'm using it with a full suite of linters and autocomplete plugins on the older MacBook Air and it's not laggy.

There seem to be a lot of performance related issues:

https://github.com/atom/atom/search?q=performance&state=open...

If it works for you, great. Hope you contribute and it becomes a great editor someday.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Build 3080

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Post by bdcravens »

lambeosaurus wrote: post #9
tmikaeld wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have tried Atom, many many times. But i always get annoyed by how SLOW it is.

I tried it once and had the same experience. I'm really just waiting to meet even a single person who uses it as their daily IDE in a work environment (or even at home - I still haven't seen that.) At that point I'll consider trying it again. I love the concept. Just not enamoured with the execution.

I do use it as my daily IDE. It is MUCH slower than Sublime, but I'm trying to ride with it through its bugs and builds. I occasionally use Sublime still, and go through periods of time where I use RubyMine.

Re: Sublime Text 3 Build 3080

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Post by bdcravens »

wodenokoto wrote: post #8
kolev wrote: post #5

Honestly, I've never seen another product here getting a post for every minor build! Nice to see such a die-hard fan base! But, please, face the reality - many have moved over to Atom already and are not looking back. Atom is alive, the ecosystem is already huge, atom-shell is getting popular as well. Unless Sublime gets open-sourced, it's in a slow agony. Remember TextMate? It had a huge loyal user base, but who is…

My impression when looking at HN is that people are not that impressed with Atom. Nobody I know in the real world uses atom, but I'm a poor data point. The reason why everybody is up in arms about every minor update is that a lot of people see every little peep from the dev as (hopeful) proof that the project isn't dead.

It's been more active than you think, but most of the builds have been on the dev channel, available only to licensed ST2 users.

I like Atom's plugin ecosystem, and am rooting for the open source option, but it really is quite slow and buggy.

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