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Lee Kuan Yew, Founding Father and First Premier of Singapore, Dies at 91

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Re: Lee Kuan Yew, Founding Father and First Premier of Singapore, Dies at 91

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One of the greatest leaders of modern times.

Singapore was a backwater country with no natural resources when he came to power. It's since evolved into one of the primary economic hubs in Asia, with a higher per-capita GDP than her former colonizers, Great Britain.

To transform a country in such short a time is nothing short of remarkable.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is that a problem?

Go to Singapore and see how the immigrant laborers from South Asia live, how the native Malays live, and then how the ethnic Chinese and Western expats live. It's a highly stratified society where money makes the rules.

You could say the same thing for the UK.

Yes, i do realize there are vast differences between immigration in the UK (or the west overall) and Singapore, but find that blaming class differences and/or the mistreatment of poor immigrants to policies is to simplify the issue.

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Lets not forget that Singapore executes a higher percentage of its population than any other country on earth and canes people slicing into flesh.

I thought they mostly executed foreigners getting caught running drugs through the airport?

Singapore will also execute anyone for simply possessing a firearm.

Re: Lee Kuan Yew, Founding Father and First Premier of Singapore, Dies at 91

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post #8

Lets not forget that Singapore executes a higher percentage of its population than any other country on earth and canes people slicing into flesh.

I thought they mostly executed foreigners getting caught running drugs through the airport?

Looking at figures in Wikipedia, compiled by Amnesty International, foreigners have been always in the minority, except for one year recently (2007) when two people out of three were foreigners. This became possible because the number of executions has dropped drastically since 1990's (from around 70 per year to around 3-7 per year; in 2010 it was zero). If the number is 1 and the one happens to be foreigner some year, then the foreigner rate will be 100 %.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I thought they mostly executed foreigners getting caught running drugs through the airport?

Singapore will also execute anyone for simply possessing a firearm.

Not quite, Wikipedia: "Trafficking in arms (Section 6) is a capital offence in Singapore. Under the Arms Offences Act, trafficking is defined as being in unlawful possession of more than two firearms."

Re: Lee Kuan Yew, Founding Father and First Premier of Singapore, Dies at 91

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post #11

One of the greatest leaders of modern times. Singapore was a backwater country with no natural resources when he came to power. It's since evolved into one of the primary economic hubs in Asia, with a higher per-capita GDP than her former colonizers, Great Britain. To transform a country in such short a time is nothing short of remarkable.

http://therealsingapore.com/content/why-are-frail-elderly-st...

Re: Lee Kuan Yew, Founding Father and First Premier of Singapore, Dies at 91

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post #8

Lets not forget that Singapore executes a higher percentage of its population than any other country on earth and canes people slicing into flesh.

I thought they mostly executed foreigners getting caught running drugs through the airport?

I'm not sure that's any better to be quite honest, even if it's true (I have no figures at hand)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Singapore will also execute anyone for simply possessing a firearm.

Not quite, Wikipedia: "Trafficking in arms (Section 6) is a capital offence in Singapore. Under the Arms Offences Act, trafficking is defined as being in unlawful possession of more than two firearms."

That is still shocking to anyone in the US where the ratio of guns to people is 1:1.

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post #8

Lets not forget that Singapore executes a higher percentage of its population than any other country on earth and canes people slicing into flesh.

For what is worth, I'd rather be executed than to "live" in an American prison. The idea that solitary confinement occurs in a first world country is appalling and scary. Don't get me started on the things inmates and guards do to some people.

Re: Lee Kuan Yew, Founding Father and First Premier of Singapore, Dies at 91

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post #8

Lets not forget that Singapore executes a higher percentage of its population than any other country on earth and canes people slicing into flesh.

That was true in the 1990s, but not in the last 10 years where use of capital punishment has been consistently less than 10 persons per year, including foreign nationals (i.e. not "its population").

Conversely the USA has a much higher percentage of its population sitting in prison. I suspect many of those people would prefer a caning over the loss of many productive years of their life.

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