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I was lost here for a minute until I finally realized that IL was Israel not Illinois.
And likewise, DE != Delaware.
Unsurprisingly there is a very large population that doesn't reside in the United States of America.
Sabbath mode
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The opposite happens too. Look at where the rule against mixing milk and meat comes from. Such an enormous extrapolation from an ultra-specific line.
That's not how it works in Judaism. The full set of laws were given to Moses. In the Torah is only a hint to the laws, that's why the line looks so unspecific to you. It's just a reminder to check the oral tradition for the details.
Do you have something I can read with more information on this? I've searched in the past and only found arguments based on the line, not saying it actually existed in oral tradition.
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#123Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes. Kosher-for-Passover cakes don't fall under the rules of leavening (chametz) in Jewish law. Sometimes they're made with potato flour. (Yuck.) Sometimes they're made with matza meal, which means very finely ground pieces of matza. The idea is that once flour has been wet and baked into matza, further contact with water won't leaven it. Some Jews don't accept this "wet matza" rule, but the majority do. If someone m…
It's not really fair to have this discussion on Shabbos/Sabbath when the people who really know are unplugged from the internet.
Um, I really know (or at least I think that I know). I don't use a computer on the Sabbath. But I live in Israel, where it ended on Saturday evening, Israel time. And I was foolish/addicted enough to check HN after Shabbat ended.
I did, however, think that it was pretty funny that American Jews who know and can weigh in on the subject were unable to participate in much of the discussion!
Re: Sabbath mode
#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
Actually, the modern interpretation is that it's ok to take an order and store it in an in-memory database, but you can't commit a transaction to disk or even write it to logs. This functionality is built into ShabbatDB (shabbatdb.io).
Are you trolling? I can't find any evidence that shabbatdb exists.
lol, i checked the link too. got me excited
Re: Sabbath mode
#125I found a photo for Sabbath mode on Flickr and convinced the photographer to make it Creative Commons. The article is now illustrated.
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#126Earlier quoted context omitted.
To extend on parent comment: What you call "circumvent your religion's practices", ie building complicated logical arguments or creating new categories and distinctions to re-interpret existing law is considered as a significant part of Jewish religion: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud#Pilpul In that aspect, Judaism is very different from, say, Christianity.
Well (and I hate reply spamming here but I keep thinking of new things) The Talmud and Mishnah were written hundreds of years after the birth of Jesus. And in the first century, the Pharisees (or proto-Rabbinics, or whatever) were only one sect amongst many. So yes, Christianity followed on a different path than Judaism.
The Jerusalem church, maybe, which didn't survive 70 CE. Modern Christianity descends from Paul and was pretty much made up in a very significant break from Jewish tradition.
Re: Sabbath mode
#127Somewhat related: B&H, an electronics store in New York owned by Hasidic Jews not only closes its brick & mortar store on Saturdays, but its website as well: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/ Screenshot for anyone looking at this after 8:30 EDT today: https://i.imgur.com/XvZHDXA.png
I guess they do proper timezone detection?
They shouldn't need to. The issue is them accepting your order during their observance of the Sabbath. If you're in a different timezone and are still supposed to be observing the Sabbath (while the website's owners are no longer in their Sabbath window), they'll accept your order; you've violated the Sabbath, not them.
(At least that'd be my interpretation based on my often-limited understanding; I'm not Jewish, so I'm hardly an authority.)
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You can't hire a non-Jew to specifically monitor it on the Sabbath.
That's true. But you can hire him full time.
I wonder how that would work, though. In general the accepted work week is Monday through Friday, so even if you did hire/pay the person on a weekly/yearly basis, you'd still have to specifically say to them that they're required to work on the weekend, and thus the Sabbath. I wonder if that's ok or not...
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#130Clever hack, but if you're coming up with ways to circumvent your religion's practices, are you really still practicing your religion?
I'm a non-observant Jew and have several observant friends. I always joke with them that Jews are the first hackers, finding ways to circumvent their own religious laws. Some other clever hacks "exploited" by Jews over the years: * Say a door needs to be opened by a button. For some reason which I can't quite remember right now, you can't just press the button to open the door, but say that after you press the button…
Just so people know, you can view that site in English as well.