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The decline of Vancouver

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Re: The decline of Vancouver

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The article reminds me of a real estate agent in Miami, who on the radio called the apartments out there "apartment-shaped financial instruments." (In Vancouver, apparently, they are detached homes.) This seems to be a recurring theme in certain cities, e.g., Vancouver, San Francisco, London, New York.

Somehow the people of Vancouver think they can avoid the fate of those other cities.

Re: The decline of Vancouver

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But that would increase the number of rental properties, theoretically drive down rents, and then possibly even decrease housing prices.

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Experientially, Vancouver has high rental prices, and a shortage of rental properties on the lower end. I don't think the numbers reported by the site you linked to accurately reflect the reality of living in a city like Vancouver.

Counter evidence: http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/vancouver-tops-list-of-most-... And http://www.vancitybuzz.com/2014/02/vancouver-expensive-city-...

Re: The decline of Vancouver

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I've lived in Vancouver. There are really only three industries: (dodgy) junior mining, retail, and real estate. Property is bought by absentee owners who take supply out of the market, drive up prices, but do not contribute to the economy. The city is more expensive than NY without the amenities (except the outdoors), culture, or opportunity. The city should be Canada's powerhouse but it's turned into a high price v…

/Property is bought by absentee owners who take supply out of the market, drive up prices, but do not contribute to the economy./ This has been thoroughly debunked many times. Real estate agents are hiring helicopters filled with asian actors to drive fear. The actual number is something like 3% foreign buyers. Now, if you look at our mortgage rates - the lowest ever in history with the loosest requirements ever, you…

This very article linked addresses the 3% figure.

Re: The decline of Vancouver

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If you look at the ruling party's donor list it shouldn't come as a surprise.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1371306-vv-pre-elect...

Oh wait, corporate contributions are only a tiny percentage! Wow, this party is funded by The People!

Now scroll all the way down (previous to last page) to see corporate donors. Observe every single developer in Vancouver being on that list donating tens of thousands of dollars, more than any other corporation.

Notice how that doesn't stack up with the pie chart you just saw. Now scroll back to the top of the page to and observe that the contribution-bysource piechart is by number of contributions rather than by aggregate value.

This should tell you enough.

Re: The decline of Vancouver

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Vancouver is one of the worst places to live in the western world imo. Poverty and violence are much bigger problems than people realize. I have many friends who already have pretty bad health problems, and they're only in their 20s. I have no idea why this is happening, but I believe stress and hopelessness must be playing a large role. Kids can't seem to afford to do anything in this city except abuse drugs and van…

Really? One of the "worst" places?

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Like I completely agree with the sentiment that Vancouver is just too expensive to live in. But one of the "worst" places in the Western world is a pretty ridiculous hyperbole. Just as a reference point, where exactly else have you lived?

Re: The decline of Vancouver

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From Vancouver, love the city but had to leave. Almost all of my friends left too. Cost of living was one thing but the quality of life just wasn't there for the suburban commuters and the city always felt depressed. There was no heart beat when walking the streets.

I lived there for a couple of years, and couldn't agree more. There's a lot of awesome people making their best efforts to counter it, but really it's a dead city.

I remember realizing that all the cafes closed around 6 or 7 in the downtown area, then finding out it was because of lack of demand. A city of 2.5 million people that can't keep a coffee shop open past dinner - coming from Toronto it was bizarre.

I also remember the absolutely awful experience of trying to find an appartment to rent. There were so many people competing that we had to line up and "audition" - I ended up getting to know a lot of my fellow contestants by name because you had to show up to practically every single Craigslist listing if you were to have half a chance. Then finally getting a place and seeing that half of apartments in the towers around us were empty.

Vancouver in the 80's was apparently one the hippest places in Canada, definitely not any more.

Re: The decline of Vancouver

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That is really low for Vancouver. I don't know anyone in a 1 bedroom in the city centre that pays ~$1400 CAD. The lowest I've heard from my co-workers is ~$1650 CAD, going all the way up to ~$2100.

Even 2100 CAD ($1670 USD) is about half of San Francisco 1 bedroom rent. His post is still correct in terms of ratios. http://sf.curbed.com/archives/2015/03/03/mapping_the_median_...

Re: The decline of Vancouver

#38
This is a really tiresome issue for me. Lots of xenophobia and misinformation. As much as I hate an absentee owner tax maybe it would shut up the racists. I fear the issue isn't the high property prices.

Re: The decline of Vancouver

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So these homes are vacant? From my experience in the Bay Area, these homes house their wives and small children; or their adult children. When you think about it this makes more sense than leaving them empty considering China's environment pollution.

Some of the owners move their families over. But they often own more than one property, so the unused ones are completely vacant.

I still don't understand why they don't want the rent money on those properties.
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