Android 5.1 Fixes a Wi-Fi Annoyance • Hacker News Board

Re: Android 5.1 Fixes a Wi-Fi Annoyance

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Post by fsniper » Sat, Mar 21, 2015, 5:13 PM UTC

chatmasta wrote: post #19

Does anyone else hate these tech headlines that begin "X just did Y." It's the inclusion of "just" that for some reason infuriates me. It seems to imply some degree of worship toward the company who "just" did this. Thank god! Our saviors! Am I totally alone on this sentiment?

Actualy, you are spot on these are only PR stunts.

Re: Android 5.1 Fixes a Wi-Fi Annoyance

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Post by dang » Sat, Mar 21, 2015, 5:14 PM UTC

chatmasta wrote: post #19

Does anyone else hate these tech headlines that begin "X just did Y." It's the inclusion of "just" that for some reason infuriates me. It seems to imply some degree of worship toward the company who "just" did this. Thank god! Our saviors! Am I totally alone on this sentiment?

It's just another attention-grabbing trick. We take it out of HN titles when we see it.

Re: Android 5.1 Fixes a Wi-Fi Annoyance

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Post by callahad » Sat, Mar 21, 2015, 5:15 PM UTC

chatmasta wrote: post #19

Does anyone else hate these tech headlines that begin "X just did Y." It's the inclusion of "just" that for some reason infuriates me. It seems to imply some degree of worship toward the company who "just" did this. Thank god! Our saviors! Am I totally alone on this sentiment?

I'm reading "just" as a temporal indicator in that sentence. E.g., "Google Recently Fixed One of Wi-Fi's Biggest Annoyances" doesn't seem that off to me.

Re: Android 5.1 Fixes a Wi-Fi Annoyance

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Post by zaroth » Sat, Mar 21, 2015, 5:17 PM UTC

In other news your phone now includes an additional database which records everywhere you've ever been with it!

Re: Android 5.1 Fixes a Wi-Fi Annoyance

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Post by pmontra » Sat, Mar 21, 2015, 5:18 PM UTC

I don't understand the problem that was solved. Android devices can forget a WiFi network (long press the WiFi icon for the menu), manually select a network (same menu) and can disable WiFi and/or 3G. You never connect to a network you don't want to connect to.

Re: Android 5.1 Fixes a Wi-Fi Annoyance

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Post by msellout » Sat, Mar 21, 2015, 5:19 PM UTC

pmontra wrote: post #25

I don't understand the problem that was solved. Android devices can forget a WiFi network (long press the WiFi icon for the menu), manually select a network (same menu) and can disable WiFi and/or 3G. You never connect to a network you don't want to connect to.

This fails when two networks have the same name and different characteristics, and you want connections to be automated. It's frustrating when I accidentally connect to a poor network just at the edge of range.

Re: Android 5.1 Fixes a Wi-Fi Annoyance

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Post by hayksaakian » Sat, Mar 21, 2015, 5:46 PM UTC

PaulHoule wrote: post #4

I dunno. When my new Nexus 7 tablet got "upgraded" to Android 5 it felt like a downgrade. WiFi worked OK before but now it is slow and unreliable on any network I try. Also the full disk encryption makes EVERYTHING slow. Lots of vendors are releasing new tablets with Android 4.4 because the user experience is so much better. And don't get me started on the "Material Design" fanbois who just have to have their car and…

Same here, but 5.1 made it much better

I was getting system error popups every 30 seconds from various apps on 5.0.

Re: Android 5.1 Fixes a Wi-Fi Annoyance

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Post by hayksaakian » Sat, Mar 21, 2015, 5:46 PM UTC

PaulHoule wrote: post #4

I dunno. When my new Nexus 7 tablet got "upgraded" to Android 5 it felt like a downgrade. WiFi worked OK before but now it is slow and unreliable on any network I try. Also the full disk encryption makes EVERYTHING slow. Lots of vendors are releasing new tablets with Android 4.4 because the user experience is so much better. And don't get me started on the "Material Design" fanbois who just have to have their car and…

Same here, but 5.1 made it much better

I was getting system error popups every 30 seconds from various apps on 5.0.

Re: Android 5.1 Fixes a Wi-Fi Annoyance

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Post by hayksaakian » Sat, Mar 21, 2015, 5:46 PM UTC

PaulHoule wrote: post #4

I dunno. When my new Nexus 7 tablet got "upgraded" to Android 5 it felt like a downgrade. WiFi worked OK before but now it is slow and unreliable on any network I try. Also the full disk encryption makes EVERYTHING slow. Lots of vendors are releasing new tablets with Android 4.4 because the user experience is so much better. And don't get me started on the "Material Design" fanbois who just have to have their car and…

Same here, but 5.1 made it much better

I was getting system error popups every 30 seconds from various apps on 5.0.

Re: Android 5.1 Fixes a Wi-Fi Annoyance

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Post by chrishynes » Sat, Mar 21, 2015, 5:55 PM UTC

I don't get why this can't happen dynamically and automatically. Detect latency and dropped packets on WiFi and fall back to LTE. Just run both networks side by side and route over the healthier one.