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Re: Ask HN: Do you take nootropics?

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post #119

Not a nootropic per say but I've noticed a huge difference since focusing on my general health; 1) 7-8 hours sleep per night. 2) 1 hour of exercise per day (some days cardio, other days weights(focus on compounds; squat, deadlift, bench press, shoulder press, pullups, rows)) (for people thinking "I'm too busy to spend an hour of my day exercising". I think the productivity increase of clearing your head doing this ex…

Why no frozen meals?

For me, a lot of frozen meals and processed foods in general have insane quantities of sodium. Seriously, check the labels and make sure to do the math on what you would consider a reasonable portions (they like to play games with portion size to bring daily percentages down).

Re: Ask HN: Do you take nootropics?

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post #118

The replies on this thread are very surprising... It seems everyone has tried them!! The question you should ask yourself is why you would need to take pills to alter your normal brain function in the first place? Do you really need to be more focused / more relaxed? Where does the urge of being more productive come from? What is your end goal? Is that goal really going to make you happier?

> The question you should ask yourself is why you would need to take pills to alter your normal brain function in the first place?

Many medicines alter your "normal" brain function. So, why do we take medicines? Because "normal" can often be very shitty.

Re: Ask HN: Do you take nootropics?

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post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are plenty of process oriented methods for solving this one e.g. pomodoros and outside-in development.

Yes, and in my personal experience they're more effective than drugs alone. In fact, with out a process or at least a process-oriented approach in place, ADHD medication or other stimulants alone can create hilarious-but-frustrating situation where you're all hopped up on meds and your laser-like focus gets "locked onto" something totally useless, like reorganizing your music collection instead of completing the prog…

Yeah, but next time think of how quickly you'll be able to cut right to the work because of how organized your music will be!

Re: Ask HN: Do you take nootropics?

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post #15

Be careful. A lot of the drugs with strong effects necessarily have long term consequences from repeated use owing to their mechanisms of action. You risk making yourself 'dumber' over time with prolonged use. Especially, with the amphetamine based crap that US doctors seem okay to use for medical purposes despite most of the developed world not doing so, and using safer alternatives.

It's working out great for those "developed" countries - they'd rather let people suffer from their inability to learn/work/live than give them something that works, even if it has side effects. The doctors must've taken the Hippocrites oath.

Re: Ask HN: Do you take nootropics?

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Not a nootropic per say but I've noticed a huge difference since focusing on my general health; 1) 7-8 hours sleep per night. 2) 1 hour of exercise per day (some days cardio, other days weights(focus on compounds; squat, deadlift, bench press, shoulder press, pullups, rows)) (for people thinking "I'm too busy to spend an hour of my day exercising". I think the productivity increase of clearing your head doing this ex…

> for people thinking "I'm too busy to spend an hour of my day exercising"

Arnold Schwarzenegger has a great quote here (paraphrased): "If the President of the United States has time to workout, _you_ have time to workout."

Re: Ask HN: Do you take nootropics?

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post #63

I tried something called Alpha-Brain by Onnit Labs based in Austin. The main ingredients of which are tyrosine, theanine and a bunch of other stuff. It is marketed as improving focus/memory. I used it for a couple of weeks and saw no benefits. The only noticeable change was my dreams got vivid when taking it (which is also claimed by them). When taking it, I also had short episode that felt like onset of a sudden dem…

Similar experience with trubrain ( https://trubrain.com/ ).

Didn't notice a thing.

Re: Ask HN: Do you take nootropics?

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post #23

NO! I investigated nootropics extensively. If you want to know the fruits of my research: * anything that "works" has a very pronounced psychoactive effect on the brain. Which is scary in the long-term. * by far the biggest cognitive boost you can get is SLEEPING WELL! Do this FIRST! It's easy to fix and gives a huge boost in output. * caffeine works as well as many nootropics, with little to no side-effects if taken…

>* anything that "works" has a very pronounced psychoactive effect on the brain. Which is scary in the long-term.

What are you specifically talking about? What do you qualify as a "very pronounced psychoactive effect" "on the brain" and how is that "scary in the long-term"?

Please don't just make blanket statements without qualifying them to the rest of us. Show some evidence or reasoning to argue.

Re: Ask HN: Do you take nootropics?

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I've taken L-Theanine with my coffee for years. The effect is subtle, but it's remarkable - I just look back over the last few hours and realize that I was distraction-proof.

I haven't dabbled in anything else because I don't really like the idea of messing with my brain chemistry too much. Theanine gets a pass because it's just an amino acid, is naturally present in green tea, and is considered extremely safe.

I'll happily recommend it to anyone looking to experiment without too much fear of side effects.

Re: Ask HN: Do you take nootropics?

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post #63

I tried something called Alpha-Brain by Onnit Labs based in Austin. The main ingredients of which are tyrosine, theanine and a bunch of other stuff. It is marketed as improving focus/memory. I used it for a couple of weeks and saw no benefits. The only noticeable change was my dreams got vivid when taking it (which is also claimed by them). When taking it, I also had short episode that felt like onset of a sudden dem…

Thanks for the report. Joe Rogan's podcast had me tempted into trying it but I'm glad I didn't!

Re: Ask HN: Do you take nootropics?

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I was prescribed Ritalin and later Adderall from 3 years old until I was 24, when I quit. They did the job they were prescribed for: I was focused. I found Adderall to be "cleaner" feeling, and it had less of a negative effect on my personality. That said, both of them made me much more angry and type A. There is no doubt in my mind now that my dosage was too high, but back in the 80s and 90s, I don't think anyone really understood what constant stimulant overdoses in children looked like. This stuff has irreversibly shaped who I am for better and worse. I can't really recommend either one to anyone unless they really need it.

On the topic of more accessible nootropics, I have worked with a number of the "racetam" substances, which tend to promote acetylcholine use in the brain. Because of this, all of them were taken with copious amounts of choline. I took Piracetam for about 2.5 years. It worked decently well early on at enhancing my focus, but towards the end, I questioned its benefits and quit. During that time, I also added in splashes of Oxiracetam, Aniracetam, and Pramiracetam. Oxiracetam is hands down the best of them all. It was made for hardcore analytical thinking. I used it primarily when I had exams or when I was more exhausted at work right after my daughter was born. It tends to tire the brain as it wears off and lead to some headaches though. Overall, it was a very useful tool Pramiracetam just gave me an instant headache the couple of times I tried it. Aniracetam is suggested to be more creative and anxiolytic. I felt a little calmer, but not enough to warrant consistent use.

Quitting caffiene was really helpful for me. I know that's close to heresy among developers, but I wake up feeling a lot less crappy.

Lately, I've been just taking Huperzine A, which acts as an acetylcholinesterase inhibitor. I feel like I get something similar to the performance of Piracetam, but without the need for the choline supplement to prevent headaches.

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