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Pharrell Williams: $7.3M Blurred Lines verdict threatens all artists

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Re: Pharrell Williams: $7.3M Blurred Lines verdict threatens all artists

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OK, I just listed to both.

They are not similar enough. I'd say that sure, there was clearly some inspiration, as with all art. Sometimes there is more sometimes there is less, sometimes the inspiration is obvious.

This lawsuit definitely does set a dangerous and unfortunate precedent. Can't say I'm surprised about it. :(

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I think this is stupid. "Feelings" aren't copyrightble.

Let's step back a little. The story is clearly written to trigger outrage -- really, meant to trigger your precise response. So, let's spend a google seeing if there are elements of this story that were left out due to not fitting the narrative (note: this isn't to say the decision wasn't stupid, or that you are wrong in any factual sense). Okay, so first that that pops up is that the children of Marvin Gaye were the…

> Lawyers are not so exceedingly stupid as to think feelings are copyrightable, and neither is the judge who issued the fines.

What about the jury? This was a jury case.

Re: Pharrell Williams: $7.3M Blurred Lines verdict threatens all artists

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Another good case why inheritance should simply not exist beyond some practical level.

You die, your live's work should become public domain, meaning, no one can use it and pervert it or change it or use it for profit, but it should not be controllable or some "estate", i.e., your parasitic children and dependents, start suing to extract even more undeserved, unearned, and unwarranted wealth.

Re: Pharrell Williams: $7.3M Blurred Lines verdict threatens all artists

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OK, I just listed to both. They are not similar enough. I'd say that sure, there was clearly some inspiration, as with all art. Sometimes there is more sometimes there is less, sometimes the inspiration is obvious. This lawsuit definitely does set a dangerous and unfortunate precedent. Can't say I'm surprised about it. :(

I listened to both before you did.

I'LL SEE YOU IN COURT, YOU COPYING SCUM.

Re: Pharrell Williams: $7.3M Blurred Lines verdict threatens all artists

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Listen for yourself: https://youtu.be/ziz9HW2ZmmY

Interesting. The basic percussive, vocal and guitar riffs are clearly based off the original, though the modern version is more polished and better packaged. The lyrics are definitely different between the two, changing the meaning and full structure of the song. I'm not sure this justifies a copyright infringement, particularly in the era of remixes. If we can legally use actual samples of another song to build your…

From my understanding none of those things were used in the comparison nor any samples actually used. It was that the new song "sounds like" the old song is the criticism. Which could be expanded to mean the person who created a genre of music owns it.

If a musician can be sued for being inspired by another, then dark times are ahead for all musicians.

"What was your inspiration for this song?" "No comment."

Re: Pharrell Williams: $7.3M Blurred Lines verdict threatens all artists

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The situation surrounding "Blurred Lines" gives me a feeling of crushing sadness. It seems, to me, that the legacy of perpetual copyright (and the death of the public domain, as a result) will be a future in which the creation of new art is discouraged for fear of attracting the litigious attention of the zombie estates of dead artists or the corporate "owners" of the rights of prior works.

Re: Pharrell Williams: $7.3M Blurred Lines verdict threatens all artists

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting. The basic percussive, vocal and guitar riffs are clearly based off the original, though the modern version is more polished and better packaged. The lyrics are definitely different between the two, changing the meaning and full structure of the song. I'm not sure this justifies a copyright infringement, particularly in the era of remixes. If we can legally use actual samples of another song to build your…

Remixes pay copyright royalties.

Given that remixing potentially falls under the "transformative" portion of fair use copyright exemptions, this doesn't seem like it's set in stone, legally.

Of course, I imagine that most artists work out contracts with the copyright owners and simply pay the royalties simply because it's less expensive than a protracted copyright lawsuit. This doesn't make it a legal standard, however.

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