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Elon Musk: Tesla cars will have “autopilot mode” by summer

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Re: Elon Musk: Tesla cars will have “autopilot mode” by summer

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Post by easytiger »

declan wrote: post #106
ForHackernews wrote: post #64

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I mean, the cars are insanely expensive already. I think they're priced to include plenty.

Teslas are in line with other luxury sedans (of course you may view all of those are insanely expensive). The 60 starts at $64K, cash price counting tax credits, and the P85 is $96K. Compare that with the starting prices of the BMW 5-series, $50K (base) to $94K (M5). The Porsche Panamera is $78K to $180K starting price. The Model S has been tested against the Mercedes S550, which starts at $94K. If you look at the pe…

> Teslas are in line with other luxury sedan

Yes but their interior, one of the most important parts of a luxury saloon car, is terrible quality. I've been in nicer vans.

Re: Elon Musk: Tesla cars will have “autopilot mode” by summer

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Post by jeffwass »

pbreit wrote: post #160
hansy wrote: post #154

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And a solar energy company. Well technically he helped his cousins start it and serves as the company's Chairman[0]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SolarCity

And Zip2. He's at least 4 for 4 and maybe 5 for 5. And these aren't little web sites or mobile apps. Payments ($1.5b), automobiles ($25b), rockets ($10b), solar power ($5b).

Yeah, his record pretty amazing. I mean, even his least successful startup zip2 'only' sold for $300m, earning him a 'measly' $20m, and that was his first one after college.

Re: Elon Musk: Tesla cars will have “autopilot mode” by summer

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Post by sfjailbird »

pbreit wrote: post #113
derefr wrote: post #111

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"He" doesn't frequently get there. The engineers get there. Or they don't. If they don't, whose fault do you imagine it is?

You do realize that he co-founded and is running both a successful electric car company and a successful rocket company? And before that co-founded an insanely successful payments company?

He didn't co-found neither Tesla, much less PayPal.

I like him, he has done well but his PR has done even better.

Re: Elon Musk: Tesla cars will have “autopilot mode” by summer

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Post by dagw »

ForHackernews wrote: post #158
declan wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Teslas are in line with other luxury sedans (of course you may view all of those are insanely expensive). The 60 starts at $64K, cash price counting tax credits, and the P85 is $96K. Compare that with the starting prices of the BMW 5-series, $50K (base) to $94K (M5). The Porsche Panamera is $78K to $180K starting price. The Model S has been tested against the Mercedes S550, which starts at $94K. If you look at the pe…

> of course you may view all of those are insanely expensive Maybe I'm just cheap, but I do think those are all insanely expensive. Even $64k is more than twice the median annual income in the US, and $78-180k will buy you a decent house in most places that aren't SF/LA/DC/NY. I can't imagine ever wanting to spend that much money on a depreciating asset that's only major benefit over a $10k Honda Civic is as a status…

depreciating asset that's only major benefit over a $10k Honda Civic is as a status symbol.

Some people think that driving is fun and think of having a car that is fun to drive as a major benefit.

Re: Elon Musk: Tesla cars will have “autopilot mode” by summer

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Post by chrisBob »

cookingrobot wrote: post #124
cmdrfred wrote: post #96

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Auto insurance is already insane, I'd love to see this take out the big automakers and the insurance companies with it.

Self-driving cars should come with insurance included, since accidents aren't the owners fault.

You already have the option of paying extra for accidents that aren't your fault. Why would that be free now?

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Post by fab13n »

Animats wrote: post #156

The Tesla Model S has forward-looking radar, ultrasonic sensors on all sides, and a forward-looking camera. That's marginally enough for automatic driving in routine freeway situations.

That's way more sensors than a human driver enjoys.

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Post by pqomdv »

waterlesscloud wrote: post #31
tbrownaw wrote: post #18

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On long trips now, is it the driver or the passengers who are more interested in rest stops?

Depends on the drivers and the passengers. But there's a difference between a 5-10 minute restroom stop and a 30 minute recharging stop. Random thought- the drivers on long distance trips self-select for people who like to keep going.

The difference is small if you take the whole trip into account. Assuming one stop, over 6 hours of total trip time, the difference become less than 5%.

I wonder how much a 10 minute stop charges a Tesla S. Probably a third. Once the superchargers become common enough, you can do several shorter stops instead.

Re: Elon Musk: Tesla cars will have “autopilot mode” by summer

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Post by fab13n »

The insurance / responsibility question really shows how moronic bureaucracy has made us.

To rephrase naysayers in a more first degree way: "sure there would be less accidents than when the vehicle is driven by a glorified ape, but for the fewer people still killed or maimed, we wouldn't be sure whom to blaim. So we'll keep killing more of them through ape drivers, rather than rush the paperwork-rethinking trauma".

Re: Elon Musk: Tesla cars will have “autopilot mode” by summer

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Post by lylebarrere »

acqq wrote: post #176
JulianMorrison wrote: post #33

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Too late, he promised Mars.

Anybody knows if any needed equipment is actually installed in his cars? From what I've understood with Google cars, the cars would need quite a lot things like high tech radars.

They've been including the hardware in the cars since about 3 weeks before they first announced these features earlier this year.

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Post by draugadrotten »

imranq wrote: post #141
tro2102 wrote: post #37

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This is the first step to that solution, though - if all cars are self-driving optimally, that 2-4 hours rush becomes much shorter.

the biggest change would come from carpool adoption

Perhaps make huge autonomous drones that can airlift your tesla from one spot to another, bypassing congested areas.
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