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Move to OVH -- they offer free DDoS protection as standard, and unlimited bandwidth. I just moved to OVH after getting DDoSed. I'm paying $109/month for a quad core 3.7Ghz Xeon, 64GB RAM, dual 2TB software RAID. It's a pretty sweet deal, and I haven't had any problems so far.
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Wow, I haven't done dedicated hosting in a long time, the prices are insane there! https://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/enterprise/2014-MG-... Thanks for posting :-) I've been looking for provider possibilities for my next failed startup. I'm not sure how they can deliver for that price but who am I to complain!
If you don't need the latest hardware and enterprisey features, give soyoustart.com a look. It's an OVH company on same network with same DDOS protection that uses the 'OVH' brand recycled servers. About half the cost. And if you don't need any support or server hardware, give kimsufi a look. I do not work for OVH, but am so impressed by their automation and value in this field I refuse to use anyone else.
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Good luck DDoSing ReCAPTCHA, I'll wait
Greatfire is unique that they want the site to remain accessible to ordinary Chinese users while withstanding the DDoS attack (so they can't blackhole all traffic from China either). If they put a reCAPTCHA wall in front, the GFW can simply block reCAPTCHA (easy -- it is a Google property and they block everything else from Google anyway) and no one from China can access Greatfire without a VPN. Mission accomplished.
If the goal was only to block Greatfire for non-VPN users, then they could just use the GFW for that from the start. The use of a DDoS can only imply that China wants the site offline for everyone, even VPN users.
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Greatfire is unique that they want the site to remain accessible to ordinary Chinese users while withstanding the DDoS attack (so they can't blackhole all traffic from China either). If they put a reCAPTCHA wall in front, the GFW can simply block reCAPTCHA (easy -- it is a Google property and they block everything else from Google anyway) and no one from China can access Greatfire without a VPN. Mission accomplished.
Assuming the attacker is indeed China: If the goal was only to block Greatfire for non-VPN users, then they could just use the GFW for that from the start. The use of a DDoS can only imply that China wants the site offline for everyone, even VPN users.
With this DDoS, they are taking the different route of attacking the infrastructure of Greatfire such that they can't serve traffic from China at all. Causing massive bills and outages for Greatfire is probably a bonus, but I don't think that is their main intention.
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If normal citizens had access to a VPN in which to access this site from another country, it would be quite redundant to use this site then wouldn't it? Maybe I'm not understanding.
If normal citizens have access to it without a VPN, then why doesn't China just block it with the firewall instead of ddosing? Maybe I'm not understanding.
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CloudFlare is probably not a good choice. They recently blocked access to a similar service, Lantern, per the linked WSJ article. "CloudFlare, which offers content-delivery network services, said last week it cut off Lantern’s use of the service, saying it was unauthorized. “We don’t do anything to thwart the content restrictions in China or other countries,” said Matthew Prince, chief executive of CloudFlare. “We’re…
> "We don’t do anything to thwart the content restrictions in China or other countries," said Matthew Prince, chief executive of CloudFlare. "We’re a tech company and we comply with the law." There's a popular idea that businesses (and people) have no responsibilities to anyone but themselves, because what they have is theirs; they built it themselves. But if you think about it a little, it's obviously false. Here's…
Not commenting on what CloudFare should or should not do, just indicating that your high horse actually has longer legs than you gave it credit for.
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Interesting when your product can be spiked, and make significant increases in profit. This looks like numbers that could potentially knock a business out of business. Reminds me of old phone bills.
If product revenue doesn't grow faster or even along with traffic (expenses) it will eventually knock itself out of business one way or another.
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This is the exact opposite of my interactions with Akamai.
My experience with them was exactly the same as OP. Wanted us to bring buckets of cash for 10-100TB of bandwidth. Went with CacheFly, super satisfied.
https://www.hetzner.de/gb/hosting/produkte_rootserver/ex60
Such a single server, isn't the same as a CDN of course, just curious what you consider "buckets of cash". I see cachefly asks for 400 USD for 2/TB a month, for comparison.
Move to OVH -- they offer free DDoS protection as standard, and unlimited bandwidth. I just moved to OVH after getting DDoSed. I'm paying $109/month for a quad core 3.7Ghz Xeon, 64GB RAM, dual 2TB software RAID. It's a pretty sweet deal, and I haven't had any problems so far.
(1gbps ~ 300 TB, 100mbit ~30TB/month)
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Wow, I haven't done dedicated hosting in a long time, the prices are insane there! https://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/enterprise/2014-MG-... Thanks for posting :-) I've been looking for provider possibilities for my next failed startup. I'm not sure how they can deliver for that price but who am I to complain!
I think the reason they can offer it so cheap is a combination of scale, cheap electricity, and tax breaks. iWeb is also in Quebec, so I figured there must be some tax break. Lo and behold there is one heck of a tax break: http://www.investquebec.com/quebec/en/financial-products/smb... Basically the Quebec government pays 24% of your company's wages, up to $83,333 per employee!