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Elon Musk: Tesla cars will have “autopilot mode” by summer

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Re: Elon Musk: Tesla cars will have “autopilot mode” by summer

#41

Every time Elon Musk makes this kind of announcement, his engineering departments groan. As I understand, they have folks actively managing Musk trying to prevent him from promising the moon :)

Too late, he promised Mars.

... I opened myself up for that one didn't I :)

Re: Elon Musk: Tesla cars will have “autopilot mode” by summer

#42
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you get past the tremendously misleading headline, you'd see that his statement isn't so crazy. All this article is about is Musk saying that Tesla Model S firmware version 7, out within a few months, will include full "autopilot" functionality, which means traffic-aware cruise control and automatic lane keeping. The former is already enabled (I just used it half an hour ago) and the latter has been demoed extensi…

I don't think that's what the article says. I mean, maybe that's what it actually means, but what it says is the cars will "navigate" themselves. It uses the term a bunch of times. Nowhere does it hint that "navigation" is limited to "not rear-ending the car in front of you and staying in the lane," and I don't think that's the plain reading of "company drivers letting the car navigate the West Coast largely unassist…

All Musk promised in the near term for autonomous driving is lane keeping. Everything else was either wishy-washy "eventually, someday" or imagined by the article's author.

Re: Elon Musk: Tesla cars will have “autopilot mode” by summer

#43
"Mostly self-driving" just seems crazy to me. As soon as the car is able to drive on a major highway, you're going to have "asleep at the wheel" issues, and the car cannot simply hand back control to the driver.

There have been times when I've misjudged my level of tiredness. Drifting out of lane is a good marker that you've screwed up and need to pull over immediately and sleep.

Does Tesla have some way to determine wakefulness or to safely pull over if the driver fails to respond?

Re: Elon Musk: Tesla cars will have “autopilot mode” by summer

#44
post #17

"self-driving car" and "car capable driving itself on highway under optimal conditions" are 2 totally different things. The real excitement comes when I can tell my car to go pick up the kids from school or drop me off at the airport and then drive itself back home. Anyways this is a great step in the right direction but its not the game changing tech we're all waiting for.

I bought a new car in Sept 2014. It uses radar to do adaptive cruise control all the way down to stop and go. It also uses camera's to sense the lanes and steer to keep lane. Also handles emergency braking and people cutting me off. So basically, I choose the on-ramp and off-ramp and the car does the rest on the highway. I feel like it's the midpoint between a manual car and an autonomous car. After a few months of u…

Just curious, do you still keep your eyes on the road with adaptive cruise control? Or do you tend to do other things?

Re: Elon Musk: Tesla cars will have “autopilot mode” by summer

#45

What is the sensor package being leveraged here?

http://www.teslamotors.com/blog/dual-motor-model-s-and-autop...

Forward radar, forward camera, 12 long range ultrasonic sensors with coverage in "every direction at all speeds".

Re: Elon Musk: Tesla cars will have “autopilot mode” by summer

#46
post #17

"self-driving car" and "car capable driving itself on highway under optimal conditions" are 2 totally different things. The real excitement comes when I can tell my car to go pick up the kids from school or drop me off at the airport and then drive itself back home. Anyways this is a great step in the right direction but its not the game changing tech we're all waiting for.

I bought a new car in Sept 2014. It uses radar to do adaptive cruise control all the way down to stop and go. It also uses camera's to sense the lanes and steer to keep lane. Also handles emergency braking and people cutting me off. So basically, I choose the on-ramp and off-ramp and the car does the rest on the highway. I feel like it's the midpoint between a manual car and an autonomous car. After a few months of u…

I had something similar on an infiniti a few years back. Literature on the 200C seems like it has the same "lane departure" protection. I don't recall that ever steering to follow the turns in freeways though.

Re: Elon Musk: Tesla cars will have “autopilot mode” by summer

#48
post #17

"self-driving car" and "car capable driving itself on highway under optimal conditions" are 2 totally different things. The real excitement comes when I can tell my car to go pick up the kids from school or drop me off at the airport and then drive itself back home. Anyways this is a great step in the right direction but its not the game changing tech we're all waiting for.

"Mr. Musk said in a conference call that the self-driving technology was “technically capable of going from parking lot to parking lot,” meaning through cities as well. But, he said, Tesla will disable the autopilot when cars are not on highways or major roads, citing safety concerns." I think the implication here is that the cars are capable of this but they are taking the smaller step out of legal and liability con…

If that's the case I think it was a good decision. If anything went wrong I feel like the media would love to fixate on it as they did with the car batteries igniting previously.

Re: Elon Musk: Tesla cars will have “autopilot mode” by summer

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Mr. Musk said in a conference call that the self-driving technology was “technically capable of going from parking lot to parking lot,” meaning through cities as well. But, he said, Tesla will disable the autopilot when cars are not on highways or major roads, citing safety concerns." I think the implication here is that the cars are capable of this but they are taking the smaller step out of legal and liability con…

If that's the case I think it was a good decision. If anything went wrong I feel like the media would love to fixate on it as they did with the car batteries igniting previously.

It makes sense that exactly tesla might not want to be the first company to launch that technology. A major failure would be an existential risk to them (just from publicity and momentum).

Re: Elon Musk: Tesla cars will have “autopilot mode” by summer

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post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I bought a new car in Sept 2014. It uses radar to do adaptive cruise control all the way down to stop and go. It also uses camera's to sense the lanes and steer to keep lane. Also handles emergency braking and people cutting me off. So basically, I choose the on-ramp and off-ramp and the car does the rest on the highway. I feel like it's the midpoint between a manual car and an autonomous car. After a few months of u…

Just curious, do you still keep your eyes on the road with adaptive cruise control? Or do you tend to do other things?

Mentally it's less stressful to get behind another car and just let the computer control the speed and distance the whole way. You stop caring if they are going 55 or 77. I just sit there and listen to podcasts. I stay alert though, and I've avoided the urge to read or something.
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