Scientists Are Racing to Build a Better Diet Soda

Post by libraryatnight » Thu, Mar 19, 2015, 10:29 PM UTC

psychometry wrote: post #15

iLoch wrote: post #6

This is probably a crazy idea: drink less soda. When it comes to pop, I usually stick to cola - and when it's cola I'll never buy it unless it is made with real cane sugar. Boom, potential side effects of artificial sweeteners are gone, and the drink tastes way better. And just drink more water. Why is this so hard for people?

You're ignoring all the well-known health hazards of consuming sugar/corn syrup that aren't present in zero-calorie substitutes. Do you even understand why the substitutes exist? Your comment suggests you don't.

Post by trhway » Thu, Mar 19, 2015, 10:33 PM UTC

dbbolton wrote: post #37

fnordfnordfnord wrote: post #5

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>Is there any reason not to just use artificial sweeteners besides unfounded fears in the public? artificial sweeteners stimulate appetite and promote weight gain http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892765/pdf/yjbm... Aspartame and depression: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8373935 SURVEY OF ASPARTAME STUDIES: CORRELATION OF OUTCOME AND FUNDING SOURCES http://www.dorway.com/peerrev.html >And would all th…

>artificial sweeteners stimulate appetite and promote weight gain Just like all studies seeking to link artificial sweeteners to weight gain, it's a correlational argument that is not specific to artificial sweeteners. The "neurobiology of food reward" is the exact same for sugar and artificial sweeteners unless you happen to be purposefully depriving yourself of calories, in which case the sweetener cannot be blamed…

Post by skywhopper » Thu, Mar 19, 2015, 10:40 PM UTC

_JamesA_ wrote: post #34

iLoch wrote: post #6

This is probably a crazy idea: drink less soda. When it comes to pop, I usually stick to cola - and when it's cola I'll never buy it unless it is made with real cane sugar. Boom, potential side effects of artificial sweeteners are gone, and the drink tastes way better. And just drink more water. Why is this so hard for people?

"When it comes to pop, I usually stick to cola..." As someone not from the Northeastern USA what does that even mean? Pop, cola, soda and more regularly "coke" (the word not the brand) are all used to refer to soft drinks in general.

Post by fluidcruft » Thu, Mar 19, 2015, 10:42 PM UTC

fnordfnordfnord wrote: post #40

fluidcruft wrote: post #27

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> artificial sweeteners stimulate appetite and promote weight gain I do not see evidence or argument in your link to support your summary. The closest I found was mention of a large observational study where people that were observed to became fatter used more sugar substitute. The difference between the groups of +2lbs was statistically significant, but seems irrelevant given the obvious observational confound of pe…

Take it up with the author. My point was to dispute the GP poster's assertion that random public persons' concerns are unfounded. The existence of such studies absent a firm conclusion from the studies makes it an open question.

Post by psychometry » Thu, Mar 19, 2015, 10:48 PM UTC

libraryatnight wrote: post #41

psychometry wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're ignoring all the well-known health hazards of consuming sugar/corn syrup that aren't present in zero-calorie substitutes. Do you even understand why the substitutes exist? Your comment suggests you don't.

The substitutes are to help sell more soda. To sell the notion that you can drink sweet syrupy drinks without being unhealthy. I think the parent understands. I don't think the comment is directed at soda companies or researchers, but the consumers leery of artificial sweeteners.