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New Jersey legalizes direct Tesla sales

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Re: New Jersey legalizes direct Tesla sales

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Sure, they didn't originate with regulatory capture. But the actions to prevent Tesla from selling direct now, today, have definitely been the result of regulatory capture. The original interventions created a kind of local businessman, who knew he owed his existence to these local regulations. And now that these laws have been made unnecessary due to the availability of both information and exposure -- and incontrov…

> regulatory capture There doesn't seem to be much disagreement about the facts, just the definition of "regulatory capture". The idea which "regulatory capture" describes is when regulations fail to do what they are intended to do, when instead of restricting they empower. But the regulations have not "failed", they are still restricting manufacturers and empowering dealers, so this isn't "regulatory capture", just…

No, that's not the normal definition. Wikipedia, for example:

> Regulatory capture is a form of political corruption that occurs when a regulatory agency, created to act in the public interest, instead advances the commercial or special concerns of interest groups that dominate the industry or sector it is charged with regulating

Enforcing barriers to entry is a huge aspect of regulatory capture. A regulation that creates $1 million/year of compliance costs nominally "restricts" all players (and certainly doesn't "empower" them), but that money is often a pittance for large companies while effectively squashing new entrants, greatly to the large companies' benefit.

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Does Tesla do free firmware upgrades for all owners, regardless if they are the second, etc. owner? Because that is another thing that will crush dealers. Gas car manufacturers will not update ECU software unless the car is either in warranty or its an actual recall.

To my limited knowledge most (maybe all) of the software in Tesla model S can be updated over the air, using cars cellular internet connection.

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Why only (4) stores? Why only "zero-emissions" vehicles? There should be zero limitations on direct to consumer sales for any manufacturer of any product.

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Why would anyone care what I buy with my own money and how I spend my free time if I don't harm others?

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This is great news. People often forget that dealerships often abuse their power and take advantage of consumers. This is especially true since purchasing a car is a large purchase with information asymmetry (although new resources have made this less true). It's especially appalling how dealerships often discriminate on race and gender [0] I am disappointed that this move only applies to zero-emission vehicles but h…

>This is great news.

It is!

> People often forget that dealerships often abuse their power and take advantage of consumers.

I doubt many people forget that. Car salesmen have some of the worst reputations of any profession in the US. Purchasing a car can be nerve-wracking. The research I felt compelled to do beforehand felt like I was preparing myself for battle, because I knew the incentives were diametrically opposed.

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> States didn't like how much money was flowing from their economies to Detroit, and by making direct consumer sales illegal they gave a lot of leverage to franchises, which are local businesses. That seems to make sense. What's different about Palo Alto, CA that they're ok with money flowing directly there? Is it because dealerships have become unnecessary middlemen putting more $ on the cost before it reaches consu…

Palo Alto isn't different.[1] Getting rid of these laws will cost NJ jobs, while making products slightly cheaper for everyone else. In a state like NJ, that's a tough pill to swallow no matter what. [1] In fact, I imagine lots of state legislators hate Palo Alto for making middle class jobs in their states obsolete while creating a few high paying jobs in California and diverting the difference to shareholders in Ne…

I don't know if you are advocating for a zero sum view of the economy, but you are definitely describing one. The thing about those middle class jobs that New Jersey is losing, is that they didn't need to exist. The only way they did was by stealing through coercion a little bit from people who chose to buy cars in New Jersey (mostly state residents).

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I'm no fan of car dealerships but a lot of the hate has to do with the fact that it's such a penny-pinching business (for both consumer and dealer) at most mainstream brand dealers. From what I've heard, if you go into a BMW dealer the experience is usually quite good. But certainly I don't see why a manufacturer who doesn't have an existing dealer network shouldn't be able to sell in whatever way it chooses.

>From what I've heard, if you go into a BMW dealer the experience is usually quite good. It's not - it's probably better than your average Dodge dealership, but there's nothing inherently different about BMW dealers - they make their money on services and accessories that you don't need like most other dealerships. They'll overcharge you for an oil change (which is typically cheaper, but not much, at an indie mechani…

High-end car service, even routine service, is certainly pricey. The general storyline I've heard is that you either 1.) Don't care what it costs, 2.) Lease, 3.) Buy with an extended warranty and plan to get rid of it at the end of the warranty, or 4.) Either have an indie mechanic you like or do it yourself.

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Why would anyone care what I buy with my own money and how I spend my free time if I don't harm others?

I'm concerned that your machine guns have the potential to harm others. The rest though, by all means...
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