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Re: Andreessen Horowitz-Backed Leap Buses Are Hitting SF Streets This Week

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Post by tptacek » Thu, Mar 19, 2015, 2:05 AM UTC

pcwalton wrote: post #68

rayiner wrote: post #57

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> I would love to take a non-CTA bus to work. I can't see how anyone could possibly do worse than the CTA bus system. I don't know where you are in Chicago, but tooling around Streeterville/Gold Coast/Lincoln Park, I always found the CTA buses clean and punctual. I don't think CTA is a great example of union protectionism or bad planning in Chicago (I'd level those at CPS/CPD). If you can't see how anyone could do wo…

> I don't know where you are in Chicago, but tooling around Streeterville/Gold Coast/Lincoln Park, I always found the CTA buses clean and punctual. I regularly waited 45 minutes for the 55 Garfield or X55 Garfield Express (years ago, before budget cuts killed it). It's supposedly on a 10-15 minute schedule.

Among the Neighborhoods White People Live In, Chicago public transit is inexplicably crappy around Hyde Park.

Re: Andreessen Horowitz-Backed Leap Buses Are Hitting SF Streets This Week

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Post by fijal » Thu, Mar 19, 2015, 6:45 AM UTC

msandford wrote: post #73

fijal wrote: post #33

Wow. All you guys need in SF is more ticketing systems. There is already what? 3? 4? In places like e.g. Germany, you have one ticketing system being serviced by different companies that all bid for the slots based on their costs (including the official railway service DB) without inconviniencing the customer.

It bugs me an unreasonable amount when people misuse eg. > In places like e.g. Germany, you have... This is not the correct way to do it, and it makes it look as though you're trying too hard. You're using a fancy latin word, but you're using it wrong. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/e.g . The way to write that sentence would have been: In other places around the world e.g. Germany, you have... Sorry for the rant. I se…

I'm very sorry dear sir, english is by far not my native language (I'm pretty glad you got fooled though), I will try to do better next time and please accept my apologies

EDIT: Wiktionary does not yet have an entry for e.g.

Re: Andreessen Horowitz-Backed Leap Buses Are Hitting SF Streets This Week

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Mar 19, 2015, 6:46 AM UTC

msandford wrote: post #73

fijal wrote: post #33

Wow. All you guys need in SF is more ticketing systems. There is already what? 3? 4? In places like e.g. Germany, you have one ticketing system being serviced by different companies that all bid for the slots based on their costs (including the official railway service DB) without inconviniencing the customer.

It bugs me an unreasonable amount when people misuse eg. > In places like e.g. Germany, you have... This is not the correct way to do it, and it makes it look as though you're trying too hard. You're using a fancy latin word, but you're using it wrong. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/e.g . The way to write that sentence would have been: In other places around the world e.g. Germany, you have... Sorry for the rant. I se…

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Re: Andreessen Horowitz-Backed Leap Buses Are Hitting SF Streets This Week

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Post by maaarghk » Thu, Mar 19, 2015, 9:50 AM UTC

fijal wrote: post #82

msandford wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It bugs me an unreasonable amount when people misuse eg. > In places like e.g. Germany, you have... This is not the correct way to do it, and it makes it look as though you're trying too hard. You're using a fancy latin word, but you're using it wrong. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/e.g . The way to write that sentence would have been: In other places around the world e.g. Germany, you have... Sorry for the rant. I se…

I'm very sorry dear sir, english is by far not my native language (I'm pretty glad you got fooled though), I will try to do better next time and please accept my apologies EDIT: Wiktionary does not yet have an entry for e.g.

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/e.g%2E

Try that.

But the poster above was right with unreasonable. "e.g." is hardly a "fancy Latin word", it's in common everyday usage and everyone knows what you mean when you use it.

Anyway, sorry, none of this really adds to the discussion. Leap looks like a terrible extravagance from where I'm sitting in the UK and I agree wholeheartedly with the largely sceptical tone of the comments below.

Re: Andreessen Horowitz-Backed Leap Buses Are Hitting SF Streets This Week

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Post by msandford » Thu, Mar 19, 2015, 1:26 PM UTC

fijal wrote: post #82

msandford wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It bugs me an unreasonable amount when people misuse eg. > In places like e.g. Germany, you have... This is not the correct way to do it, and it makes it look as though you're trying too hard. You're using a fancy latin word, but you're using it wrong. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/e.g . The way to write that sentence would have been: In other places around the world e.g. Germany, you have... Sorry for the rant. I se…

I'm very sorry dear sir, english is by far not my native language (I'm pretty glad you got fooled though), I will try to do better next time and please accept my apologies EDIT: Wiktionary does not yet have an entry for e.g.

No need to apologize, I'm the one being unreasonable!

Re: Andreessen Horowitz-Backed Leap Buses Are Hitting SF Streets This Week

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Post by dgomez1092 » Fri, Mar 20, 2015, 8:54 AM UTC

peterwwillis wrote: post #80

hsod wrote: post #69

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"rider comfort" is not real value? What if busses had no seats at all? What if they were 100 degrees? What if they didn't have shock absorbers? What if they smelled bad (worse)? Rider comfort IS real value. You've just anchored your perspective at the current level and decided that anything above that is "pretentious" which is itself kind of pretentious. Also, it seems tautological that luxury services benefit the we…

Sometimes , rider comfort determines value. Such as on an airplane, where a couple inches can determine if your neck and back are screwed up for hours. Or on a bus in Dubai, where air conditioning may determine if you look like you just stepped out of a lake of perspiration. In this case, the Leap is doing what someone else already alluded to: giving you a Lexus version of a bus. It's not like it's providing air cond…

I agree it is a little pretentious. But at the same time what does it say about the user? Being pretentious means a user is attempting to sway you by affecting, say knowledge of culture (an emotive response) to an object than it inherently holds. In this case the aesthetic appeal to the interior of a bus, less seats and maybe they're made of leather but to the seat itself, there is no significance in its functionality -- we give it its meaning. That to me is materialistic and gives us insight as to how we can understand users.

Say there response is to recommend to their friend, "Oh, I only use Uber when I come back home after a night out, but when I go to work I use Leap, I love that I can put my feet up on the leather seat across from me while typing away!"

Your user seems to have issues rooted in self-identifying through external means. Why is it that they feel compelled to compare Leap to Uber? To note I think it increases their socio-economic status (in their mind) for that brief moment thus generalizing them to the specific core of typical Uber users. This is a self-transformation expectancy that keeps them coming back to the product, Leap! They're not happy with themselves to a certain (obviously monetary) extent. As a business it should follow a categorical imperative to come up with a way to (a) accept the pretentious user (b) be pretentious product (c) BUT help user keep some measure of progress, allow them to get rid of that maladaptive urge >> make them begin a drawing, everytime they ride have them sketch one line at a time. Over the course of a month if they're active then they will have become a amateur artist in that timeframe -- a transformation. (d) feel good.

Re: Andreessen Horowitz-Backed Leap Buses Are Hitting SF Streets This Week

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Mar 20, 2015, 11:34 AM UTC

msandford wrote: post #85

fijal wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm very sorry dear sir, english is by far not my native language (I'm pretty glad you got fooled though), I will try to do better next time and please accept my apologies EDIT: Wiktionary does not yet have an entry for e.g.

No need to apologize, I'm the one being unreasonable!

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