Live data from Hacker News

Google Makani – Wind Energy Kites

google.com

161–165 of 165 posts

Re: Google Makani – Wind Energy Kites

#161
post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What gives you the impression that it won't be cheap to run? Presumably, if they've got the automation figured out, each unit will just manage itself, launching when wind conditions are favorable.

The underlying technology for the Makani kites and a standard turbine are the same. In the Makani case you have one kite with eight turbines, and like a standard wind turbine, all turbines need to be serviced. If you have to service 1 turbine, the other 7 stop operating. Hence, on a per turbine basis, I believe availability won't be around the 98-99% level (the industry standard), but lower. Additionally you have the…

After they get going, I don't see how the capex could possibly be higher than for a traditional tower wind turbine. Everything is smaller, and closer to the ground. Less site preparation, and you don't need to rent giant cranes. You're also not shipping giant blades and pylons with special trucks.

Also, using smaller generators means that you've got a higher production volume, which can mean significant cost savings. You're also not dealing with giant bearings, gearboxes, etc. which are expensive to produce.

And if you're taking a kite offline, you might as well replace all the motor-generators at the same time. I assume they'll be designed to easily detach and replace. Then, back at the shop, you can check them out on your test bench, and see which ones can return to service in the spares stock.

I agree that the tether is a big question mark.

Re: Google Makani – Wind Energy Kites

#163
post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you cite sources for the coal to wind economics?

The LCOE can also be regarded as the cost at which electricity must be generated in order to break-even over the lifetime of the project. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of_electricity_by_source Note, wind has gotten much better over time so 2013 numbers look much better than 2006 numbers. Germany levelized cost of electricity generation in 2013 (EUR/MWh) Onshore wind farms 45–107 Coal-fired power plants (brown coa…

Thank you!

Re: Google Makani – Wind Energy Kites

#164
post #30

Good, could people just stop messing with how scrolling works.

I'm with you, but I'm a power user. I wonder if anyone has any sentiment analysis showing whether the average web user likes this sort of thing, or finds it annoying.

My scrolling seems to work, but it is annoying. The embedded video does not work at all for me. I had to copy link location and paste it another window for it to work.

Re: Google Makani – Wind Energy Kites

#165
post #86
post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ironically, it works great with the spacebar. (I've become accustomed to people breaking spacebar scrolling entirely, especially in Firefox.)

Spacebar does nothing for me in Chrome.

Bummer! I usually use Firefox to surf HN, hadn't tried it in Chrome.
Post reply on HN