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Re: How Millennials Get News

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trolls cross the lines. "If you don't agree with the person who made this video why are you posting here?!?! Get a life troll!" Trolls is the heroes of the internet, the diversity.

The few, the proud, the unwilling to be quietly wrong in their own corner. You need us. :)

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Re: How Millennials Get News

#23
post #2

The one part I can't believe is that 86% of people think they're "Usually [seeing] diverse opinions through social media". The "filter bubble" is going to get worse and worse, it seems. Has anyone had any good experiences where a piece of information technology (forum, reddit, twitter, insta, etc) didn't encourage a filter bubble?

Off-topic:

I've always wondered if you could make some sort of website with an anti-bubble. Probably in the style of Twitter, since you'd want to minimize reliance on outside content of dubious provenance, but possibly in the style of reddit with a system that instead of just linking, there'd be some kind of automatic reputation system for the websites linked to. (For the reddit example, think hybrid link and self-post, where you link to a item and then write an opinion about it.)

Rather than try to show you things that it thinks you'd find agreeable, it shows you opinions that meet your epistemological and deductive methods, but have different conclusions. Detecting reasoning method would likely be difficult, but it might be possible to analyze your argument for similarities to another one, and then show you how people responded to that post.

Of course people would still think that there are logical faults in the other person's argument and dispute their facts, but the goal is to match you with people you'd like to argue with rather than with views you'd get a warm fuzzy by agreeing with. Likely, you'd want to put in a mix of the opinions that's roughly reflective of the user base (eg, X% of users support abortion, so about X% of the posts you see on the topic will concur with that view).

An interesting extension would be to see how far you can go down the formalism path without encumbering the process beyond what people are willing to put up with. (Perhaps require more formalism when introducing external sources, eg websites, and less when just talking about a free standing opinion.)

Regardless, I think we're going to see the rise of communities meant to mix and compete opinions, instead of making echo chambers of them.

Re: How Millennials Get News

#24
post #13

The reverse of this is of course baby boomer generations who hate what the news has become (TV and Newspaper) yet slavishly consume it anyway, because of a lifetime habit. Whenever I see an older relative frothing about some stupid article in the newspaper, or some pointless piece on TV - I just say 'why not switch it off? Why buy the paper anyway?' I don't watch the news or read newspapers anymore, unless I happen t…

>In the case of TV news and newspapers - lets say 6 hours a week glued to the talking heads and 4 hours a week in the paper = 500 hours a year - 12 24hr days in total, or 24 12hr days. All so they can sell your eyeballs to the highest bidder. Who wouldn't like 24 extra days time to do as they please with?

So, exactly like Twitter and FB.

Re: How Millennials Get News

#25
post #13

The reverse of this is of course baby boomer generations who hate what the news has become (TV and Newspaper) yet slavishly consume it anyway, because of a lifetime habit. Whenever I see an older relative frothing about some stupid article in the newspaper, or some pointless piece on TV - I just say 'why not switch it off? Why buy the paper anyway?' I don't watch the news or read newspapers anymore, unless I happen t…

It's not that simple. Capturing people's attention is now a well studied science. The addiction is engineered. The people who are addicted(or "engaged") to their media streams whether social or main stream need the same sort of help any addict needs to kick the habit.

Since the addiction thus far hasn't caused lung cancer, driving accidents, violent behavior etc we can all continue to

1. make money of it and

2. tell the addicts to figure it out for themselves

Re: How Millennials Get News

#26
post #3
post #2

The one part I can't believe is that 86% of people think they're "Usually [seeing] diverse opinions through social media". The "filter bubble" is going to get worse and worse, it seems. Has anyone had any good experiences where a piece of information technology (forum, reddit, twitter, insta, etc) didn't encourage a filter bubble?

Trolls cross the lines. "If you don't agree with the person who made this video why are you posting here?!?! Get a life troll!" Trolls is the heroes of the internet, the diversity.

Trolls are reinforcing the bubble by "proving" that everyone outside of it is purely an asshole with no intent to have a conversation, merely to insult and ridicule and try to cause people to leave the forum.

Re: How Millennials Get News

#27
post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Trolls cross the lines. "If you don't agree with the person who made this video why are you posting here?!?! Get a life troll!" Trolls is the heroes of the internet, the diversity.

The few, the proud, the unwilling to be quietly wrong in their own corner. You need us. :)

Nobody needs the people who harass others and attempt to ridicule them into silence.

Re: How Millennials Get News

#28
post #6

Let's be real here, national mainstream electronic media is somewhere between outright propaganda (yesterday's revelation and pictures of ISIS cross dressing soldiers retreating) and inane press release political fodder (sources in the White House report some BS that everyone knew anyway), and tabloid stuff. In the old days 1994, there was at least some journalistic content on the news with Peter Jennings. If you giv…

> In the old days 1994, there was at least some journalistic content on the news with Peter Jennings.

And people from a prior generation laughed at the idea of Peter Jennings being 'journalistic' and pinned their ideals on Brinkley and Huntley. Basically, this statement says nothing and means nothing, because it's just a generational marker, nothing more.

Re: How Millennials Get News

#29
post #17

Interestingly they declined to define 'news' .. perhaps the study proper did, though it's such a nebulous term that it's probably moot in any case. Facebook is cited as being a primary source of news, yet items that I see pop up in the 'news' block on FB are generally of the fashion, entertainment and asinine activities of alleged celebrities variety... not news by my definition.

As far as I'm concerned, a kidnapping case from two states away isn't news.

News is something which could affect me or which I could affect; if it's an Amber Alert from my hometown or close by, it's news in a vague sense that, in theory, I might have some effect on it. (Statistically I'd have a better shot at winning a small prize in a lottery, but still...)

So: The Columbine school shooting? Not news. I've never lived near Columbine. The laws and changing social attitudes as a result of that? News.

Re: How Millennials Get News

#30
post #6

Let's be real here, national mainstream electronic media is somewhere between outright propaganda (yesterday's revelation and pictures of ISIS cross dressing soldiers retreating) and inane press release political fodder (sources in the White House report some BS that everyone knew anyway), and tabloid stuff. In the old days 1994, there was at least some journalistic content on the news with Peter Jennings. If you giv…

> In the old days 1994, there was at least some journalistic content on the news with Peter Jennings.

And people from a prior generation laughed at the idea of Peter Jennings being 'journalistic' and pinned their ideals on Brinkley and Huntley. Basically, this statement says nothing and means nothing, because it's just a generational marker, nothing more.

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