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Firefox finally passes IE6

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Re: Firefox finally passes IE6

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... and what kind of site do you run? I think this means averaged over the web. If you're running anything remotely technical you have a very different userbase than, say, Yahoo!.

Visitors yesterday to the website I edit (for a mainstream local radio station, so likely to be one of the least "techie" audiences out there): IE8: 28%; IE7: 27%; IE6: 19%; FF3.5: 16%; FF3: 7%; Others: 3%

What's your demographic though? You can mention what station it is.

Re: Firefox finally passes IE6

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Just to be clear... Firefox passed IE6 . It did not pass IE in general, which enjoys a huge advantage. Or did I read something wrong? Because at first blush, the version number "6" didn't seem that important in the headline. I'm a little confused, though. Why is every version of FF compared to just one version of IE?

Because every version of FF is more standards-compliant than IE6. This is an important milestone in the adoption of web standards.

I must be dense, because I'm still not following.

So the point is: whether its IE7 or FF, the fact that all of FF is greater than IE6 means that the goal of standards adoption has progressed?

Why wouldn't the main story just be that the rollout of IE7 is finally showing some signs of eliminating IE6 users? And if it's a web standards story, why the FF head?

Re: Firefox finally passes IE6

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i switched to chrome a couple of months ago and have not looked back. Firefox was starting to feel seriously bloated. Chrome starts up quickly, runs much faster than FF let alone IE. The only reason I fire up FF is to use firebug as the web developer tools in chrome are still a bit buggy. I'm surprised that more tech people don't use chrome.

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Re: Firefox finally passes IE6

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i switched to chrome a couple of months ago and have not looked back. Firefox was starting to feel seriously bloated. Chrome starts up quickly, runs much faster than FF let alone IE. The only reason I fire up FF is to use firebug as the web developer tools in chrome are still a bit buggy. I'm surprised that more tech people don't use chrome.

due to lack of adblock in chrome.

I've been using Privoxy (http://www.privoxy.org) for a while - seems to do a good enough job for me (though I've noticed that transitioning from HTTP to HTTPS seems to get stuck sometimes).

Plus, it means on those rare occasions when I fire up IE, I also see fewer ads.

Re: Firefox finally passes IE6

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And my favorite Linux and Windows browser (Opera) continues its downward descent. It seems a bit unfair to me -- Opera always responds like a lean and mean browser with stability and a dearth of innovative features, but for some reason it never gets any traction. Is Free Software/Open Source that much of an attraction? Maybe it's just me but I have a huge respect for well thought out and well written proprietary soft…

a dearth of innovative features I assume you don't mean dearth here as that would mean a lack of innovative features. Personally I found Opera to be too much of a walled garden, they never really had a cohesive extensions story. Sure you could configure it to a very great degree but you are still interfacing with it only at points and ways the developers were able to foresee. Still I used it for years it's a good pie…

Yup you're right; I meant plethora. I was doing that all day yesterday -- I don't know what was up.

Re: Firefox finally passes IE6

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And my favorite Linux and Windows browser (Opera) continues its downward descent. It seems a bit unfair to me -- Opera always responds like a lean and mean browser with stability and a dearth of innovative features, but for some reason it never gets any traction. Is Free Software/Open Source that much of an attraction? Maybe it's just me but I have a huge respect for well thought out and well written proprietary soft…

Opera's UI is still pretty clunky (it's improved, but not enough), they've never built the enthusiastic community of Mozilla or have the brand recognition and products of companies like Google or Apple, and its USPs have gradually eroded over time with increased competition.

(And yes, I am using Opera 10 now)

Re: Firefox finally passes IE6

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I agree. There is certainly far less hassle going between Firefox 2.0 and Firefox 3.5 than there is between IE6 and IE7 or IE8. That said, this is not really the substance of the article or the article's headline. The headline and the comparison don't really make much sense, unless you're basically trying to promote Firefox. Don't get me wrong, I'm a Firefox user and evangelist. But making flimsy comparisons isn't wh…

Not a web developer by the sounds of it?

I was an amateur web developer back when I was hand-coding my proto-blog in Notepad back in '99. Ah, those were the days of Netscape 4 and IE 4 & 5. Pretty much gave it up when my blogging withered away in '04. So I bowed out before the Browser Reconquista began and have missed all the excitement of IE6 versus IE7&8 versus Gecko versus Webkit. I can't imagine how thrilling it is...

Re: Firefox finally passes IE6

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post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

a dearth of innovative features I assume you don't mean dearth here as that would mean a lack of innovative features. Personally I found Opera to be too much of a walled garden, they never really had a cohesive extensions story. Sure you could configure it to a very great degree but you are still interfacing with it only at points and ways the developers were able to foresee. Still I used it for years it's a good pie…

Yup you're right; I meant plethora. I was doing that all day yesterday -- I don't know what was up.

How about "a lot?" Keep it simple.
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