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Re: From Fastmail back to Gmail

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Post by corobo »

mkpankov wrote: post #16
lazyjones wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly, I don't really see the problem in the article. I have a $40/year (15GB) account and apart from my fastmail and my forwarded pobox.com address, I also receive mail for and host DNS records and web pages for 2 other virtual domains. Also, I'm very happy with spam filtering and Fastmail's service quality (they even post on Twitter things like 'mail is slow currently, investigating...').

Well, I can't say I'm happy with spam filtering - I regularly get some stupid spam to the inbox (not even something smart enough to bypass the filters, IMO).

I'm at a point with Gmail where I'd be happy that I'm getting a bit of spam in the inbox. Unfortunately I'm starting to see a lot of false positives recently. I was actually looking to move out of Gmail myself

Re: From Fastmail back to Gmail

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Post by tiatia »

I wanted to leave google due to privacy concerns. Fastmail is based in Australia - not an option. I did not want anything EU based either. Got a Proton mail account but without IMAP, what is it good for?

An email service that is based in Switzerland and that you can use with you own domain: https://www.infomaniak.com/en/workspace/webmail-messaging

Re: From Fastmail back to Gmail

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Post by lazyjones »

mkpankov wrote: post #16
lazyjones wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly, I don't really see the problem in the article. I have a $40/year (15GB) account and apart from my fastmail and my forwarded pobox.com address, I also receive mail for and host DNS records and web pages for 2 other virtual domains. Also, I'm very happy with spam filtering and Fastmail's service quality (they even post on Twitter things like 'mail is slow currently, investigating...').

Well, I can't say I'm happy with spam filtering - I regularly get some stupid spam to the inbox (not even something smart enough to bypass the filters, IMO).

I get some spam too (which passes both pobox.com's and fastmail's filtering), but it's much less than I previously had with gmail and I assume that spam has become more elaborate these days. Also, with gmail I had more false positives.

Re: From Fastmail back to Gmail

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Post by tdkl »

detaro wrote: post #30
tdkl wrote: post #19

I've been looking at Fastmail when switching from Gmail this year, but the lack of flexibility in prices vs. storage size turned me off. All I wanted was a fast IMAP host, with 5-10GB of storage, DAV for calendar and contacts and a simple fast web interface. After some testing, I've found ServerMX [1]. They're EU based (.nl, .de infrastructure) [2], have SOGo for DAV and webmail (offers full size contact pictures, wh…

While we are recommending mail hosts, http://www.mailbox.org also is nice. From Germany, privacy-minded (you can have totally anonymous accounts, they encrypt everything with your PGP-key as soon as it arrives, ...), run by people who are quite well-known when it comes to mail servers (author of books on postfix, running conferences, ... so they hopefully know what they are doing) Webinterface is ok, but not perfect.

Oh yeah, I considered mailbox.org too, but was a bit more expensive for the plan with ActiveSync (for mobile), but major argument was that I've found IMAP sync faster (basically instant) then Exchange push in my testing.

Re: From Fastmail back to Gmail

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Post by detaro »

tdkl wrote: post #44
detaro wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While we are recommending mail hosts, http://www.mailbox.org also is nice. From Germany, privacy-minded (you can have totally anonymous accounts, they encrypt everything with your PGP-key as soon as it arrives, ...), run by people who are quite well-known when it comes to mail servers (author of books on postfix, running conferences, ... so they hopefully know what they are doing) Webinterface is ok, but not perfect.

Oh yeah, I considered mailbox.org too, but was a bit more expensive for the plan with ActiveSync (for mobile), but major argument was that I've found IMAP sync faster (basically instant) then Exchange push in my testing.

IMAP sync? You mean IMAP push extensions? I only use IMAP and it is seconds between me sending an e-mail to my mailbox address and my devices going "pling".

Re: From Fastmail back to Gmail

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Post by flurdy »

jakobegger wrote: post #21

I agree that Fastmail's default spam filter settings are a bit to lenient, I also got around 3 spams a day. After increasing the spam settings I get about 1 spam a week, which is acceptable. There are a few reasons why I'd never switch back to gmail: 1) Reliability: Gmail sometimes had issues with Apple Mail where messages would show up twice, etc. Since switching to Fastmail I had no more problems. 2) Customer suppo…

Labels is the one lock-in that stops me from migrating off Gmail/Google Apps. It is now what I insist on in a mail solution. Folders is just to inflexible for me these days as I auto label across multiple folders too much.

Haven't really found alternatives for labels in other solutions. IMAP keywords is too restrictive etc.

Re: From Fastmail back to Gmail

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Post by jorams »

I always wonder what people do with their email address to receive that much spam. I have a Fastmail account with a catch-all that receives all mail sent to a domain, and I rarely receive spam. I'm not exactly careful spreading my email address around either.

I have noticed that almost all spam I do receive is sent to an address I posted here on HN, so perhaps I just haven't posted any addresses on other sites that are crawled by spammers a lot?

Re: From Fastmail back to Gmail

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Post by brongondwana »

bismark wrote: post #40

I'm a happy Fastmail user but one thing I wish they would bring over from Gmail is SASL OAuth. I understand it's still in a draft extension but any improvement to the state of email authentication would be great (restricting read/write access based on IMAP folder on a token by token basis would be even better). The idea of handing out my email credentials in plain text to email SaaS products just gives me the willies…

We're looking at making this easier, but you can already set up a separate login token for the individual SaaS products - just create a regular password alternative login with something from pwgen or your favourite line noise source.

https://www.fastmail.com/help/account/alternatelogin.html

You can then revoke the individual token.

Per-folder permissions isn't something on our radar yet. You could hack it up with a family/business and separate accounts with folder sharing, but it costs money and is a right pain to administrate.

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