I use GMail. However remember if you pay for it via Apps, the terms are different so that is worth bearing in mind.
Google Apps for work is $50 per account per year. The terms of service for apps for work protects your privacy.
[deleted]
From Fastmail back to Gmail
31–40 of 59 posts
Re: From Fastmail back to Gmail
#32I agree that Fastmail's default spam filter settings are a bit to lenient, I also got around 3 spams a day. After increasing the spam settings I get about 1 spam a week, which is acceptable. There are a few reasons why I'd never switch back to gmail: 1) Reliability: Gmail sometimes had issues with Apple Mail where messages would show up twice, etc. Since switching to Fastmail I had no more problems. 2) Customer suppo…
If I may add, Gmail has removed the feature to send from other email addresses. Or rather, they now require you to have an SMTP server to send from other email addresses. Fortunately, the change has not been retroactive, so all my previous addresses were still available, but I couldn't really set up new ones. Which became a deal breaker.
That - and the fact that I been looking for something not Gmail for a long time - made me switch to Fastmail.
I must say, my experience with Gmail's spam filter has been the reverse. There are a lot of false positives in my Gmail's spam folder. But I am new to Fastmail, so maybe it'll bother me at some point.
Re: From Fastmail back to Gmail
#33I agree that Fastmail's default spam filter settings are a bit to lenient, I also got around 3 spams a day. After increasing the spam settings I get about 1 spam a week, which is acceptable. There are a few reasons why I'd never switch back to gmail: 1) Reliability: Gmail sometimes had issues with Apple Mail where messages would show up twice, etc. Since switching to Fastmail I had no more problems. 2) Customer suppo…
what's the difference between gmail's labels and fastmail folders?
A mail can be in multiple labels, but can only in one folder (copy doesn't count).
Re: From Fastmail back to Gmail
#34He mentions the availability of Mailbox as a useful third-party app.
However the fact that Mailbox only works with proprietary services, being restricted to GMail and iCloud, should send red flags, because this app is not provided by Google, but by Dropbox and personally I'm seeing a conflict of interest and given that it isn't based on standards, you can bet that it won't last. I also tried it out and I found it half-baked.
This point was weird. It's because of Google's poor support for standards that I'm considering ditching Google Apps. Because GMail and Google Calendar are all fine only as long as you're using the official apps.
Re: From Fastmail back to Gmail
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
I pay for email because it's the keystone to my online 'identity' - pretty much the single point of failure for recovering all sorts of accounts, and the thing in the way of theft of many accounts. Technical merits aside, by using a small but well run non-gmail provider for a mere £25 pa I get (i) near instantaneous tech support in my time zone, from people who know more about email & admin than I do. They even have…
Would you mind sharing who you use as a provider?
https://www.mythic-beasts.com/ - having looked, it turns out they don't have a telephone number, but as all my support emails have been answered within minutes I'd never felt the need :)
Re: From Fastmail back to Gmail
#36I've been looking at Fastmail when switching from Gmail this year, but the lack of flexibility in prices vs. storage size turned me off. All I wanted was a fast IMAP host, with 5-10GB of storage, DAV for calendar and contacts and a simple fast web interface. After some testing, I've found ServerMX [1]. They're EU based (.nl, .de infrastructure) [2], have SOGo for DAV and webmail (offers full size contact pictures, wh…
While we are recommending mail hosts, http://www.mailbox.org also is nice. From Germany, privacy-minded (you can have totally anonymous accounts, they encrypt everything with your PGP-key as soon as it arrives, ...), run by people who are quite well-known when it comes to mail servers (author of books on postfix, running conferences, ... so they hopefully know what they are doing) Webinterface is ok, but not perfect.
They even offer exchange push sync.
Re: From Fastmail back to Gmail
#37I think good old POP and mailbox discipline needs to make a come back... at least for Average Joe users. I have a similar Fastmail setup to the OP. My parents get $10 Lite accounts and I set them up to fetch all their mail via POP, so their mailbox never gets full. I also downgraded my own account from Enhanced ($40) to Full ($20) some time ago after I used Fastmails superior web interface and search to finally prune…
he might (like me) still have a grandfathered-in account which is free (with ads) for up to 10 users. [edit: parent edited complete comment]
Originally they allowed more than 10 users... My account lets me have up to 200 users.
Re: From Fastmail back to Gmail
#38I agree that Fastmail's default spam filter settings are a bit to lenient, I also got around 3 spams a day. After increasing the spam settings I get about 1 spam a week, which is acceptable. There are a few reasons why I'd never switch back to gmail: 1) Reliability: Gmail sometimes had issues with Apple Mail where messages would show up twice, etc. Since switching to Fastmail I had no more problems. 2) Customer suppo…
As to the spam filters, on the other hand in Gmail I'm getting more and more proper ("ham") mail landing in the spam folder recently... thus I have to tread the spam bin ~weekly to make sure nothing important/interesting is lost... particularly, it seems to like having certain persons on a blacklist (probably based on some misconfiguration at their email provider?), regardless of the fact that I always patiently go through them and mark as "Not spam". (Notwithstanding that I had them trigger a "send to gmail team for spam filter tweaking" dialog countless times, obviously selecting "yes" always.)
Re: From Fastmail back to Gmail
#39I think good old POP and mailbox discipline needs to make a come back... at least for Average Joe users. I have a similar Fastmail setup to the OP. My parents get $10 Lite accounts and I set them up to fetch all their mail via POP, so their mailbox never gets full. I also downgraded my own account from Enhanced ($40) to Full ($20) some time ago after I used Fastmails superior web interface and search to finally prune…
he might (like me) still have a grandfathered-in account which is free (with ads) for up to 10 users. [edit: parent edited complete comment]
Sorry about the edit... I decided refuting the arithmetic was a fairly blunt way to deal with the debate.
I moved from an older (50 user) free GApps account to Fastmail. If I had been paying I would have saved $150/year, but just saving my time, and avoiding the now shitty experience of managing my mail via Gmail, was well worth the cost to me. Early on Gmails web interface was a revelation, now it's just below standard... and any momentum from their multi-GB storage giveaway doesn't cut it anymore.
I think the final nail was one of principle... Google just aren't interested in offering premium personal mail services, like own-domain hosting to families or individuals. Using free GApps made me feel like an unwanted freeloader... a second-class citizen.
Re: From Fastmail back to Gmail
#40I'm a happy Fastmail user but one thing I wish they would bring over from Gmail is SASL OAuth. I understand it's still in a draft extension but any improvement to the state of email authentication would be great (restricting read/write access based on IMAP folder on a token by token basis would be even better). The idea of handing out my email credentials in plain text to email SaaS products just gives me the willies.