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Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala

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Re: Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala

#11
post #3

I wonder if this is truly a widespread issue. I've been using Karmic daily since the beta was released a few weeks ago, upgrading its packages to the official release, and I haven't encountered any issues yet. Has anyone here had any of the problems described in the article?

Widespread graphics driver and sound issues. GNOME-Do, System Monitor and some other programs. Launchpad is going berserk right now. http://bit.ly/1IPSsm

Re: Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala

#13
post #10

The entire article mentions only one bug, which is caused by proprietary drivers. Seems more like FUD to me. And yes I had a smooth upgrade to Karmic-amd64 with proprietary ATI drivers.

Ubuntu 8.10 broke Intel drivers, which are OSS. Furthermore Ubuntu ships with restricted drivers manager, which pragmatically installs properietary drivers where needed. Software vendors have the resposibility to their users to perform regression tests as part of their product. If Ubuntu doesn't want do do that, or do it better, then they shouln't bother to compete with other OSs that do. I'm saying this after 10+ ye…

I have Ubuntu on my desktop and server, and OS X on my laptop. Personally I've experienced less problems with Ubuntu. I use proprietary 64bit ATI and my upgrade was smooth.

Considering I'd pay money for Ubuntu, I'm very happy to get it for free. If you're worried about stability, I suggest using the long term releases instead of upgrading to the cutting edge right away. If you want the cutting edge, wait a month before upgrading so the bugs can be worked out.

It's also important to remember that you are not a customer with a support contract with Canonical. You are a customer getting a great operating system for free. Something to factor into your calculations.

Re: Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala

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post #10

The entire article mentions only one bug, which is caused by proprietary drivers. Seems more like FUD to me. And yes I had a smooth upgrade to Karmic-amd64 with proprietary ATI drivers.

Ubuntu 8.10 broke Intel drivers, which are OSS. Furthermore Ubuntu ships with restricted drivers manager, which pragmatically installs properietary drivers where needed. Software vendors have the resposibility to their users to perform regression tests as part of their product. If Ubuntu doesn't want do do that, or do it better, then they shouln't bother to compete with other OSs that do. I'm saying this after 10+ ye…

Have you tried other distros like Debian, OpenSUSE, Fedora?

Re: Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala

#16
I had two issues, one during the upgrade process, the second with proprietary wireless network drivers. I upgraded a 3-years old HP laptop from Windows XP. My initial plan was to make it boot both systems, but the install hang up during repartition, destroying Windows. Oh, well, isn't that what Linux is for, to destroy Windows? The second problem was just an annoying non-issue, solved by finding the right aptitude incantations.

Apart from that, Karmic has been a cute little boy all along.

Re: Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala

#17
post #11
post #3

I wonder if this is truly a widespread issue. I've been using Karmic daily since the beta was released a few weeks ago, upgrading its packages to the official release, and I haven't encountered any issues yet. Has anyone here had any of the problems described in the article?

Widespread graphics driver and sound issues. GNOME-Do, System Monitor and some other programs. Launchpad is going berserk right now. http://bit.ly/1IPSsm

That bitly link is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-system-monit... . HNers prefer normal links.

Re: Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala

#19
I've been told to wait with the Snow Leopard update, too. Update of Ubuntu on my second notebook really produced some errors, but after a clean install (often a good idea anyway), it looks great. For the first time I did not immediately switch off the desktop effects.

Re: Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala

#20
post #5

I've never seen the register being positive about anything new.

I've never seen the Register being positive about anything.

Checking the authors back catalogue briefly - he does seem to be quite positive about Windows 7; I wonder if that's a coincidence.
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