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Re: Gogs, an alternative to Gitlab

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Post by scintill76 »

awalGarg wrote: post #125
nine_k wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The implementation language has a lot of implications. * I'm extra wary installing anything written in e.g. PHP: it has a higher chance to be remotely crackable. * I plan for more CPU and expect higher latency if something I need to run is written in e.g. Ruby. * I plan for extra RAM and JVM tweaking for things written in Java (or Scala). * I expect extra setup hassles for things written using Node. Upsides are easy…

> e.g. PHP: it has a higher chance to be remotely crackable No language war/php sucks discussion, but this isn't even remotely true :/

Or at least, we can see that Ruby can have stupid security holes too, for example[0].

[0] http://sakurity.com/blog/2015/03/15/authy_bypass.html ("How "../sms" could bypass Authy 2 Factor Authentication".)

Re: Gogs, an alternative to Gitlab

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Post by sytse »

y0ghur7_xxx wrote: post #127
sytse wrote: post #70

Hi, GitLab CEO here. Installing GitLab should take only 2 minutes with the Omnibus packages available on https://about.gitlab.com/downloads/ Upgrading GitLab is as simple as: sudo gitlab-ctl stop unicorn sudo gitlab-ctl stop sidekiq sudo gitlab-rake gitlab:backup:create sudo dpkg -i gitlab_x.x.x-omnibus.xxx.deb sudo gitlab-ctl reconfigure And we're working very hard to make sure this is a flawless, uneventful & borin…

nice. the problem i have with gitlab is not much the upgrage process anymore, but the fact that you don't accept push requests from the community of features that you implemented in the enterprise edition. for example the git hook stuff. i hope someone who has the time and the skills forks gitlab and merges push requests of new features, even if they are already implemented in your pay-for version.

Can you link to the merge request you refer to? Merging something depends on the quality of the implementation and the use case. We don't say that git hooks will be EE forever and we try so evaluate each merge request on its merits.

Re: Gogs, an alternative to Gitlab

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Post by worklogin »

ctvo wrote: post #21

What's the value of hosting your own Github alternative as an organization / company? Do people have on-premise requirements and don't want to pay for Github enterprise? I assume most start-ups don't and 25 USD for 10 private repositories isn't going to break the bank.

If you mean globally, then it should be obvious that banks, private research institutes and other sensitive workspaces are NOT going to use an off-premise code hosting solution.

Re: Gogs, an alternative to Gitlab

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Post by sytse »

gkoberger wrote: post #133

I love OSS, however I hate this argument: "You could certainly purchase access to private Github repositories, but most certainly you’d rather want to invest your capital in more pressing matters." That's their #1 reason? GitHub is, like, $7. If that saves you 10 minutes of having to maintain your own servers? Completely seems worth it to me. Or, GitLab or BitBucket have free private repos. My argument is this: your…

Some people have way more than 5 repositories that a $7 plan brings. Also, if you don't want to host it yourself, GitLab.com has free private and public repositories https://about.gitlab.com/gitlab-com/

Re: Gogs, an alternative to Gitlab

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Post by sytse »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #128
sytse wrote: post #70

Hi, GitLab CEO here. Installing GitLab should take only 2 minutes with the Omnibus packages available on https://about.gitlab.com/downloads/ Upgrading GitLab is as simple as: sudo gitlab-ctl stop unicorn sudo gitlab-ctl stop sidekiq sudo gitlab-rake gitlab:backup:create sudo dpkg -i gitlab_x.x.x-omnibus.xxx.deb sudo gitlab-ctl reconfigure And we're working very hard to make sure this is a flawless, uneventful & borin…

Another possible option is the Sandstorm.io port of Gitlab. It can be installed as easily as a mobile app. :) That's where I found out about/first tried Gitlab.

Yeah, thanks for the hard work of David Renshaw from SandStorm for making that work.

Re: Gogs, an alternative to Gitlab

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Post by gkoberger »

sytse wrote: post #144
gkoberger wrote: post #133

I love OSS, however I hate this argument: "You could certainly purchase access to private Github repositories, but most certainly you’d rather want to invest your capital in more pressing matters." That's their #1 reason? GitHub is, like, $7. If that saves you 10 minutes of having to maintain your own servers? Completely seems worth it to me. Or, GitLab or BitBucket have free private repos. My argument is this: your…

Some people have way more than 5 repositories that a $7 plan brings. Also, if you don't want to host it yourself, GitLab.com has free private and public repositories https://about.gitlab.com/gitlab-com/

For the record, I think GitLab is awesome :) There's a ton of amazing reasons for large companies to use GitLab (storing your own data, customization, etc) that I completely stand by.

My umbrage is simply with the price argument Gogs lead with; it'll always end up cheaper to use GitHub (or another hosted solution) than to run your own.

Re: Gogs, an alternative to Gitlab

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Post by SEJeff »

Navarr wrote: post #15
Rafert wrote: post #8

What experiences do people have with http://phabricator.org/ ? It's not a GitHub clone but it does seem very complete, possibly replacing Jira and Stash if you're into the Atlassian ecosystem.

I played with it a little bit once for a small personal project. It seems to have all the features you want, but the way you used them never really clicked with me. Unlike Stash, GitLab, GitHub, Gogs, or others of that nature - though - it expects you to setup your git repositories elsewhere (at least the last time I used it) instead of acting as a receiving host for them (at least the last time I used it - which was…

Phabricator does host git repositories. The workflow is a bit strange when compared to github's more natural PR model, but it works, and is overall quite solid.

Bonus points that in encourages you to upload memes under macros to troll your coworkers when doing code reviews.

Re: Gogs, an alternative to Gitlab

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Post by y0ghur7_xxx »

sytse wrote: post #142
y0ghur7_xxx wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

nice. the problem i have with gitlab is not much the upgrage process anymore, but the fact that you don't accept push requests from the community of features that you implemented in the enterprise edition. for example the git hook stuff. i hope someone who has the time and the skills forks gitlab and merges push requests of new features, even if they are already implemented in your pay-for version.

Can you link to the merge request you refer to? Merging something depends on the quality of the implementation and the use case. We don't say that git hooks will be EE forever and we try so evaluate each merge request on its merits.

> We don't say that git hooks will be EE forever and we try so evaluate each merge request on its merits.

Seems like you sad exactly that a while ago:

"We are unlikely to merge this functionality in CE because there already is a nice implementation in EE."¹

It's your repo. You can do whatever you want with it, no need to merge PR for features that are already in your EE edition. That's why I hope someone forks it, or something better comes around.

¹https://github.com/gitlabhq/gitlabhq/pull/6883#issuecomment-...

Re: Gogs, an alternative to Gitlab

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Post by neilk »

gkoberger wrote: post #146
sytse wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some people have way more than 5 repositories that a $7 plan brings. Also, if you don't want to host it yourself, GitLab.com has free private and public repositories https://about.gitlab.com/gitlab-com/

For the record, I think GitLab is awesome :) There's a ton of amazing reasons for large companies to use GitLab (storing your own data, customization, etc) that I completely stand by. My umbrage is simply with the price argument Gogs lead with; it'll always end up cheaper to use GitHub (or another hosted solution) than to run your own.

That's true if you're running a typical business. But there really is a whole other world that opens up when things are free.

Maybe you are a young person, and don't have access to online payment methods. $84/year or more could be really significant for a 15 year old, or someone in a country that Github can't legally transact with.

Or maybe you need to roll your own hosting solution. Maybe for security, maybe you're integrating with APIs like a corp SSO that are not on the public web, etc.

We do a few wacky things in our business (test infrastructure SaaS) and sometimes we need to do stuff at scale where all available commercial solutions assume a single user. Open source solutions are a godsend there. We don't have that need for code repos (we use Github) but I can totally see why others would need it.

Re: Gogs, an alternative to Gitlab

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Post by CognitiveLens »

djur wrote: post #58
technomancy wrote: post #48

Maybe it isn't fair, but every time I see "...written in X" tacked on the end of the tag line, I assume it's a very immature product. If the implementation language is that high on the list of things potential users might be interested in, it's usually a sign that they've got a ways to go.

I had the same reaction. I associate it with weekend projects people post on HN -- "Minecraft written in Elm" or the like. The claims about it being automatically cross-platform because of Go were also pretty dubious. Most languages are cross-platform until you write code that isn't (or use a dependency that isn't).

Go compiles easily to platform-specific binaries, unlike some other languages which either require a lot of provisioning or middleware to run cross-platform.

Saying that the project is "automatically cross-platform" is just shorthand for saying "no additional configuration is needed to run on platforms supported by the Go compiler"

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