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Brazil: hundreds of thousands of protesters call for Rouseff impeachment

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Re: Brazil: hundreds of thousands of protesters call for Rouseff impeachment

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This protest got a lot of people with different opinions together. As ridiculous as it sounds, some of them even want the military back in power. Some people had swastikas drawn on their flags. Some others just want someone else on power. All they have in common is their hate for the current president's party, who won the last election with roughly 52% of votes.

Re: Brazil: hundreds of thousands of protesters call for Rouseff impeachment

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post #2

This protest got a lot of people with different opinions together. As ridiculous as it sounds, some of them even want the military back in power. Some people had swastikas drawn on their flags. Some others just want someone else on power. All they have in common is their hate for the current president's party, who won the last election with roughly 52% of votes.

Well that's the problem. Most people wouldn't mind having someone else in charge...

but no one wants any of these guys in charge.

So therein lies the quandary.

Re: Brazil: hundreds of thousands of protesters call for Rouseff impeachment

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post #2

This protest got a lot of people with different opinions together. As ridiculous as it sounds, some of them even want the military back in power. Some people had swastikas drawn on their flags. Some others just want someone else on power. All they have in common is their hate for the current president's party, who won the last election with roughly 52% of votes.

BTW, Brazil has a population of 200million, and this protest's had at most 1 million people. This isn't as representative of people's toughts as right hand media tries to show.

Re: Brazil: hundreds of thousands of protesters call for Rouseff impeachment

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post #2

This protest got a lot of people with different opinions together. As ridiculous as it sounds, some of them even want the military back in power. Some people had swastikas drawn on their flags. Some others just want someone else on power. All they have in common is their hate for the current president's party, who won the last election with roughly 52% of votes.

BTW, Brazil has a population of 200million, and this protest's had at most 1 million people. This isn't as representative of people's toughts as right hand media tries to show.

I think that is a silly argument. In that case, any march or protest of the elected majority is not representative of people's thoughts, because the protest will contain fewer people than then number of people who voted in the majority. The fact that you can get 1 million people to stop what they are doing and protest shows that there is a solid group of people discontent with something. I couldn't find any exact numbers, but I'd imagine that the occupy movement was about the same size. That movement was certainly not unimportant, despite the small size of that compared to the US population.

Re: Brazil: hundreds of thousands of protesters call for Rouseff impeachment

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post #2

This protest got a lot of people with different opinions together. As ridiculous as it sounds, some of them even want the military back in power. Some people had swastikas drawn on their flags. Some others just want someone else on power. All they have in common is their hate for the current president's party, who won the last election with roughly 52% of votes.

BTW, Brazil has a population of 200million, and this protest's had at most 1 million people. This isn't as representative of people's toughts as right hand media tries to show.

Living in Rio as an expat and hearing in the evening people banging wooden spoons in the cooking pans on their balconies I can tell you - majority of people seem to be pissed off, I've never seen something like that.

Re: Brazil: hundreds of thousands of protesters call for Rouseff impeachment

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post #2

This protest got a lot of people with different opinions together. As ridiculous as it sounds, some of them even want the military back in power. Some people had swastikas drawn on their flags. Some others just want someone else on power. All they have in common is their hate for the current president's party, who won the last election with roughly 52% of votes.

Fascism has a way of surfacing during difficult times. Greece has a big problem with Golden Dawn again. When crisis struck they started recruiting using food drives/soup kitchens for 'pure Greeks' for example.

Re: Brazil: hundreds of thousands of protesters call for Rouseff impeachment

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post #2

This protest got a lot of people with different opinions together. As ridiculous as it sounds, some of them even want the military back in power. Some people had swastikas drawn on their flags. Some others just want someone else on power. All they have in common is their hate for the current president's party, who won the last election with roughly 52% of votes.

BTW, Brazil has a population of 200million, and this protest's had at most 1 million people. This isn't as representative of people's toughts as right hand media tries to show.

This is the only comment that rings true to me. I lived in Brazil for 7 years, and yes, people were unhappy with Lula before they were unhappy about Dilma Roussef. But overall, poor people (which is a substantial part of the population) were happy with their governments.

On the other hand, most people I knew voted for Lula and Dilma because they actually benefitted from their policies. When Lula left power his approval rate was something over 80%, which was better than any other president before him. And yet, if you asked the right people, you'd the country was about to explode because people were so unhappy.

Re: Brazil: hundreds of thousands of protesters call for Rouseff impeachment

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post #2

This protest got a lot of people with different opinions together. As ridiculous as it sounds, some of them even want the military back in power. Some people had swastikas drawn on their flags. Some others just want someone else on power. All they have in common is their hate for the current president's party, who won the last election with roughly 52% of votes.

Would not get anything near that if the election was today. Election was won basically by public spending + promising that no austerity measures would take place after the election. Brazil has lost a golden opportunity to improve itself between 2005-2012 just because the current party wanted to win one more election.

Re: Brazil: hundreds of thousands of protesters call for Rouseff impeachment

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post #2

This protest got a lot of people with different opinions together. As ridiculous as it sounds, some of them even want the military back in power. Some people had swastikas drawn on their flags. Some others just want someone else on power. All they have in common is their hate for the current president's party, who won the last election with roughly 52% of votes.

BTW, Brazil has a population of 200million, and this protest's had at most 1 million people. This isn't as representative of people's toughts as right hand media tries to show.

If you live in the South and Southeast, you probably have seen some declining living standards for middle-class families. That is mostly offset by substantial improvements in the rest of the country.

Still, it's funny to call this the "Protest of the 0.5%"

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