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Re: Any good open-source self-hosted evernote alternatives?

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Amazed no one has mentioned Emacs' org-mode yet. Nothing I've ever tried comes close to the flexibility and usefulness of org-mode in Emacs. Combined w/ MobileOrg sync and the MobileOrg app, it serves all of my note-taking needs quite well. It's much more than dumb text, too, like Evernote. Structured documents with headers, markdown-like formatting, links, fast-capture templates for stray thoughts, an Agenda system…

Org-mode really is vastly more functional than other solutions, with the added benefit that you can learn and use as much or as little as you want and not be bothered by what isn't useful.

The other thing I try to call out about org-mode is that there is nothing else that is likely to be around and useful in 20 years.

Re: Any good open-source self-hosted evernote alternatives?

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I use ownCloud and plain old text editor. ownCloud has an Android client (it's not free on Google Play but you can build it from source code yourself), and Android text editors are easy to find.

Don't. Use. OwnCloud. We tried rolling it out at a small (80) employee company and it ended up being a nightmare.

We also had HUGE problems with OwnCloud. It's a very heavyweight application and we ran into some of the same problems mentioned in one of the sibling posts. But probably the worst thing about OwnCloud is that we had files come up missing seemingly randomly. Unfortunately we were already several months into a site installation before we figured out what was happening. You're probably reading this and wondering why we couldn't just retrieve a copy from somewhere else, and the answer is that when OwnCloud eats your files, it syncs that state to all of the clients. This is incredibly insidious and as it turns out, this is an open secret among the OwnCloud developers and its community. Just Google for "OwnCloud file missing" and you'll get pages of results. You are really tempting fate if you use OwnCloud for anything non-trivial (which is probably the very reason you want it synced). It's like the dryer that eats your socks, except that it's your business documents.

Re: Any good open-source self-hosted evernote alternatives?

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If you have a requirement for self-hosted evernote alternative then I believe either you have very large number of notes and each note exceeds large size or just for plain privacy reasons and your notes are very secretive (because evenote is a simple note taking/syncing app)

You should look into https://owncloud.org/ it is like open source version of dropbox which will sync more than just notes for you across multiple platforms

Re: Any good open-source self-hosted evernote alternatives?

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If you have a requirement for self-hosted evernote alternative then I believe either you have very large number of notes and each note exceeds large size or just for plain privacy reasons and your notes are very secretive (because evenote is a simple note taking/syncing app) You should look into https://owncloud.org/ it is like open source version of dropbox which will sync more than just notes for you across multipl…

Please do not use OwnCloud if the files you are storing are important. There is a discussion elsewhere on the page with an explanation. TL;DR It eats your files.

Re: Any good open-source self-hosted evernote alternatives?

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If you have a requirement for self-hosted evernote alternative then I believe either you have very large number of notes and each note exceeds large size or just for plain privacy reasons and your notes are very secretive (because evenote is a simple note taking/syncing app) You should look into https://owncloud.org/ it is like open source version of dropbox which will sync more than just notes for you across multipl…

Please do not use OwnCloud if the files you are storing are important. There is a discussion elsewhere on the page with an explanation. TL;DR It eats your files.

As I am using it, I am a little Bit scared right now. Could you point me to said discussion? Thanks a lot in advance.

[Edit] OK, I look es around and Asket the mighty Google. Looks like the problem happens when updating. Good to know. Thanks for the hint.

Re: Any good open-source self-hosted evernote alternatives?

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I've looked hard and tried lots of packages as well as rolling my own. Frankly, Evernote has been at it for 7 years and spent $225M on the problem, and they have done a pretty damn great job at it.

I've asked myself WHY do I want to host my own data. My innermost thoughts are hard to imagine being broadcast to the NSA, Chinese government, and any ambitious cracker... but what I write about I will eventually publish anyhow. And the projects I am working on will eventually be free software anyhow. AND even with my own infrastructure I know that the NSA/Chinese/Crackers could find a way in.

I gave up on giving up on the cloud. From one perspective, I think that security through obscurity (with 7 Billion folks, why does my stuff matter THAT much?) is a thing. Another thing is that if my work were discovered, what would happen? Controversy? Notoriety? As a marketer I crave those things.

I have some very patentable, valuable work sitting in Evernote, Google Drive, iCloud, OneDrive, various local and hosted Owncloud/NeverNote/Laverna/LibreOffice files. My plan is to get as much as I can of it into Evernote and move on with my work rather than spending more time on this question.

Ultimately I had to ask myself this: If I am going to ask even one person to trust my service with their data, why can't others ask the same of me?

FYI, Here is what my Evernotes are about: I think that the future of computing should be based on Canonical Identity via Blockchain, 'personal fact clouds' for every identity that store state in infinispan grids (most will use hybrid clouds, but could be fully self hosted on an RPi in a fanny pack), datamic+datalog for interfacing with the data, and infinite user and machine interfaces to that data. I think that CoreOS/Ubuntu Core could be the foundation for personal grid computing, every app can be a container with on demand scaling and failover, and that data transport can be equally at home on a sneakernet, the internet of today, or the mesh network of tomorrow. I believe that data is soveign, sharing of that data should always be FINITE, all user interfaces should be stateless, and hardware should allow for users to compose their own interfaces. In this future, VR and IOT are instantly integrated, everybody owns their own data, and short of physical access data isn't shared ever ever ever unless with finite permission.

I'm using Evernote for now because it is fast and lets me work on my work. And now that y'all have my ideas to steal, do. Please. Let's build a better world together, eh?

Being open rarely closes doors.

Re: Any good open-source self-hosted evernote alternatives?

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I've looked hard and tried lots of packages as well as rolling my own. Frankly, Evernote has been at it for 7 years and spent $225M on the problem, and they have done a pretty damn great job at it. I've asked myself WHY do I want to host my own data. My innermost thoughts are hard to imagine being broadcast to the NSA, Chinese government, and any ambitious cracker... but what I write about I will eventually publish a…

PS If somebody wants to give me $225M I'm sure I could muster a decent evernote clone. But why would anybody do that?

Re: Any good open-source self-hosted evernote alternatives?

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post #38

Amazed no one has mentioned Emacs' org-mode yet. Nothing I've ever tried comes close to the flexibility and usefulness of org-mode in Emacs. Combined w/ MobileOrg sync and the MobileOrg app, it serves all of my note-taking needs quite well. It's much more than dumb text, too, like Evernote. Structured documents with headers, markdown-like formatting, links, fast-capture templates for stray thoughts, an Agenda system…

What protocol does org-mode use for syncing with mobile devices, can it be adapted to use WebDAV?

An open ecosystem of human-signal-capture apps will improve security of the future, i.e. events that have not yet happened. The past is already well monitored and recorded. See "The Adjustment Bureau" for exploration of the topic.

If apps use a mature sync protocol (e.g. WebDAV, CalDAV), they can collectively debug interoperability and cross-platform issues related to that protocol, leaving them free to innovate on UX for mass or vertical audiences. Some examples:

http://www.2doapp.com - CalDAV - iOS, Android and Mac

https://www.omnigroup.com/omnifocus - WebDAV - iOS and Mac

http://www.notebooksapp.com - WebDAV - iOS, Mac, Win

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