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Tunneling Internet traffic over FB chat
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Re: Tunneling Internet traffic over FB chat
#102While I find this project awesome, but I don't think telecos or even facebook will allow this in long run. I think that it even breaks facebook TOS.
Re: Tunneling Internet traffic over FB chat
#103Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you actually make the argument that access to Facebook/Wikipedia/etc is worse than no Internet whatsoever?
Yes, absolutely, and it's not a new idea, e.g. "sending shirts destroys local textile economies by flooding the market with free goods and undercutting local t-shirt producers" [1]. 1. http://freakonomics.com/2011/02/15/what-happens-to-all-those...
This allows those communities to dedicate resources that would have gone towards shirt manufacturing into something more valueable. Textile economies are a mostly waste of human ingenuity and time, and have been since the Jacquard Loom at least.
Re: Tunneling Internet traffic over FB chat
#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wouldn't it prevent people interested in creating an ISP in any area that has "free" facebooknet? Especially if the services provided by facebooknet is most of which people would want with an ISP anyway? So not only does it prevent competitor websites, but it stops competitive ISPs, too. It's especially bad if this coporate network is censoring information. No opportunity to even discover non-filtered information out…
Are those competitive ISPs going to give the audience we're talking about access to the net for free as well? Because for a lot of people in this world, they will never be connected to the net unless they don't have to pay; they simply can't afford it.
Why can they not afford it, if facebook can grant access for free? Sure, facebook has a lot of economical back up, and construction and maintenance for lines might be considerable, but it's not like ongoing traffic was at all especially expensive.
The users, at least some users, are expected to bring in the expenses one way or another, e.g. paying twice on advertised goods. Or something else in the longterm promises revenue, e.g. market dominance. Either way, nothing is going to be free.
Re: Tunneling Internet traffic over FB chat
#105Back in the day when Skype was a pretty cool peer-to-peer encrypted mesh network, that successfully evaded firewalls and traffic analysis, I wrote a tool to proxy Internet traffic ontop of the Skype mesh. I was quite young when I wrote it, but I managed to dust off an old demo screencast I made (and convert the swf to an mp4), which gave me a laugh. If you're curious: http://data.zx2c4.com/skypeproxydemo.mp4
That is very cool. Does Skype not have a direct peer to peer connection anymore?
Re: Tunneling Internet traffic over FB chat
#106Back in the day when Skype was a pretty cool peer-to-peer encrypted mesh network, that successfully evaded firewalls and traffic analysis, I wrote a tool to proxy Internet traffic ontop of the Skype mesh. I was quite young when I wrote it, but I managed to dust off an old demo screencast I made (and convert the swf to an mp4), which gave me a laugh. If you're curious: http://data.zx2c4.com/skypeproxydemo.mp4
That is very cool. Does Skype not have a direct peer to peer connection anymore?
Supposedly since the Microsoft buy-out, everything is gradually becoming centralized.
Re: Tunneling Internet traffic over FB chat
#107Couldn't you just use Facebook's "Fetch as FacebookBot" feature and just fetch the pages yourself? Example: https://developers.facebook.com/tools/debug/og/echo?q=https%... I was thinking about doing this since on my network Facebook access is free but Internet isn't. (2nd world country, but barely)
How does they rate limit this thing?
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#109This is really cool! In so many 2nd and 3rd world/poor countries internet is a luxury, as the price of bandwith is so high. Philippines for instance, a country that mainly provides connectivity through limited 3G and LTE, have a monthly price of about 30 beers from the local bar. In comparison, I pay around the price of 4-5 local beers, for 100/100 fiber. Its sucks so hard that people cant afford to get knowledge fro…
~70USD for a symetric 3Mbps static-IPv4/6 connection in Argentina.
I believe asymetric normal connections cost about ~40USD.
A beer is about 4USD, IIRC, if that helps the comparison.
Re: Tunneling Internet traffic over FB chat
#110With a built-in encryption layer (on top of eventual HTTPS) it could be a useful "hack" for the kinds of situations mentioned in the readme. I wonder how facebook and the telecos will feel about this. All in all, a cool concept but unlikely to work in practice if either facebook or the telecos do not want to.
It would be cool if a company such as facebook supported this. Seeing them as an enabler for free/uncensored internet, given that the country was chosen for a internet.org campaign.
They're also basically the ones responsable for restricting that same internet access.
If they wanted you to access those other sites, they'd have given you access to them.
But why would they? As-is, they have no competition. "when there's only one choice, there's only one vote!"