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Re: Microsoft's new foldable keyboard

#41
This is almost perfect. They didn't reinvent the keyboard of course, and I expect the typing experience to be somewhat crap but still... compared to a 5inch touchscreen and for $99?

Wait - how in the world is a bluetooth keyboard not be compatible with Android 4.2, iOS 6, etc? [1] Isn't a bluetooth keyboard, a bluetooth keyboard? Is "support" defined as "exactly what is says on the label" (months of battery life), or "pairs; keystrokes appear on the screen"?

(10 minutes later of googling later)

Maybe I have partially answered this for myself: This claims bluetooth LE (4.0), and these are the OSes that "do not support it". Question: Is the 4.0 Low Energy mode "exclusive"? Can 4.0 hardware talk to 3.0 devices, even if they draw more power?

(to the wikipedia stations)

    Bluetooth Smart is not backward-compatible with the previous, often called Classic, Bluetooth protocol. The Bluetooth 4.0 specification permits devices to implement either or both of the LE and Classic systems[2]
So here comes an actual question: Is this exclusively LE?

If I know Microsoft at all, this will be exclusively LE and it will suck. If you claim "months of battery life"[3] you can just as well throw in an "unofficial" fallback mode to the classic stack to make it work with, oh-only every device built since the late 90s, even if it is "weeks" of battery life.

It is just like MS to introduce an artificial limitation of only talking to 2012+ stuff for no reason... ("almost there"). Although I genuinely hope I'm wrong.

On the plus side, if this is the case, I would stake a considerable amount of my fortune (let's call it $10) that within months of release, some chinese manufacturer will come out with a close-enough version of it which will play with all the bluetooths, even if "accidentally" (older chips being cheaper). That will be a laugh and a definite purchase, and that will make this rant relevant, because I'll be all clairvoyant-in-the-downvotes.[4]

[1] http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/support/compatibilit... then select the UFK from the dropdown. MS, where's my permalink?

[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluetooth_low_energy

[3] Not holding my breath about this. We'll see.

[4] Parting thought: Bluetooth is as old as USB. That blows my mind a little.

Re: Microsoft's new foldable keyboard

#42

My biggest gripe with almost all portable keyboards is that they can only be used on a flat, firm surface. If I have a flat, firm surface, I'm not mobile. Unless that MS keyboard locks, I can't sit it on my lap while I'm in the train, or in the back seat of a car. Where are people finding themselves, such that they need a portable keyboard, have a nice, stable flat surface, but also didn't bring their notebook? Shrug…

As well as my portable keyboard I keep a small non-slip mat folded up in my bag, to sit the keyboard on top of.

Re: Microsoft's new foldable keyboard

#43

Since every single comment[0] at the time of me writing mine is negative, let me make a positive one. I do really like the concept and would buy a high-quality Bluetooth keyboard. I care about ergonomics and probably wouldn't want to code all day on such one, but sure as hell I would use it to reply to e-mails during my commute or write stuff wherever I happen to be at the moment. I actually bought a cheap BT keyboar…

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Re: Microsoft's new foldable keyboard

#44
post #33

Seems cool, but the order they list the supported devices (iPad, iPhone, Android, Windows) tells everything about their current self-esteem.

They guy who is marketing this keyboard is responsible for selling keyboards, so he lists them in the order of likelihood that the reader owns one. Speaking exactly, only 71 people on Earth actually have Windows tablets, so mentioning them first would only serve to make the author seem like a corporate toolbag of the highest order.

Re: Microsoft's new foldable keyboard

#45
post #34

I guess MS is late by 19 years. PFU Limited reinvented the keyboard in 1996 :-P http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Hacking_Keyboard

That doesn't fold though. It's a foot wide and 4cm thick. The whole point of this new keyboard here is that it folds, and that it's really thin, so that it's like 6" x 5" x 1cm, and can go in your handbag or coat pocket. Much better prior art here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Palm-Vx-Portable-Keyboard-105Keys/dp... (has 2 fold points, feels like a laptop keyboard)

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Re: Microsoft's new foldable keyboard

#46

Since every single comment[0] at the time of me writing mine is negative, let me make a positive one. I do really like the concept and would buy a high-quality Bluetooth keyboard. I care about ergonomics and probably wouldn't want to code all day on such one, but sure as hell I would use it to reply to e-mails during my commute or write stuff wherever I happen to be at the moment. I actually bought a cheap BT keyboar…

Like you, I also own a small BT keyboard for casual use when traveling; but I actually bought a $15 no-brand one on ebay, and it works fine.

I think there's definitively a professional market that can afford to pay well for something only used occasionally. It's just not mass-market.

Re: Microsoft's new foldable keyboard

#47

Coincidentally saw this on Kickstarter today about a guy with a cool idea to reinvent typing altogether: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/forrestmaready/crosstap...

Sounds similar to this project to build an open source stenographic keyboard:

http://stenosaurus.blogspot.com/

Re: Microsoft's new foldable keyboard

#48
post #2

It's neat, but Microsoft has not reinvented the keyboard. There's much prior art: https://www.google.co.uk/search?safe=off&client=safari&hl=en... I wonder how much MS paid Time.com for that article?

They pretty much started the company "reinventing" something invented before at Dartmouth College.

Then they went on to "reinvent" CP/M for the IBM-PC.

They "reinvent" pretty much everything they do.

Re: Microsoft's new foldable keyboard

#49
Yet another keyboard with staggered keys. How come are all keyboard manufacturers going out of their way to complicate the layout by staggering the keys? It makes absolutely no sense, and only contributes to inefficient typing and wrist fatigue.

I would pay so much for a notebook with straight/matrix keyboard.

This is what it could look like:

http://imgur.com/9KomLMg

Re: Microsoft's new foldable keyboard

#50

My biggest gripe with almost all portable keyboards is that they can only be used on a flat, firm surface. If I have a flat, firm surface, I'm not mobile. Unless that MS keyboard locks, I can't sit it on my lap while I'm in the train, or in the back seat of a car. Where are people finding themselves, such that they need a portable keyboard, have a nice, stable flat surface, but also didn't bring their notebook? Shrug…

Coffee shops, usually. Then again I usually travel around the city on foot, so the keyboard allowed me to avoid carrying the laptop around.
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