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How the sugar industry shaped key government research about your teeth

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Re: How the sugar industry shaped key government research about your teeth

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eru wrote: post #46
ArkyBeagle wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is one of the more bizarre artifacts of our system. And it took the concentrated efforts of almost everyone involved to make it this way. But in a way , cheaper is always better. Nutritious food is also cheap, relatively, unless the "nutritiousness" of it is also a price differentiator. Frozen veggies are pretty easy to get, IMO - but it seems there usually has to be a largish supermarket to buy them in. And tha…

Have you tried Aldi?

Yes. It confuses me to no end.

Re: How the sugar industry shaped key government research about your teeth

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Post by 8bitpony »

nilkn wrote: post #37
jacobolus wrote: post #5

Has anyone here closely investigated the research that led to recommendations to brush teeth after every meal or at least two times a day, as e.g. suggested on toothpaste containers, and to floss frequently, etc.? Any idea how well designed / how complete the relevant studies were? Have there been more recent improved studies? In the last few years I’ve heard second-hand some alternative recommendations to brush befo…

I can't understand how it would make sense to brush before rather than after meals. What's the logic behind that? This is doubly so if the meal is sugary. By not brushing afterward, you're just letting bacteria process all that sugar and produce plaque and acid.

My dentist has advised me not to brush after a sugary meal or drink for at least an hour, otherwise you are effectively brushing the sugar into your teeth. Perhaps this also applies (but with a lesser timeframe) for meals that aren't so sugary.

Re: How the sugar industry shaped key government research about your teeth

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Post by crusso »

ArkyBeagle wrote: post #50
crusso wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, you constructed a straw man. I didn't claim that voters got what the median wants. I claimed that the main driver in the complex cycle of perversion of the function of government is the bad choices of voters. Without an informed citizenry that can make solid election choices, even the best government framework is doomed to fail because it will be populated with politicians who are unable or unwilling to do the jo…

I've read perhaps too much Bryan Caplan :), who holds that Median Voter Theory/Public Choice theory is sufficient to explain the bad choices of voters. But of course you are as familiar with that as I am, right? No. You probably are not . My bad then. rends garment . That's more like "assuming a linkage not in evidence", a much less crafted thing than a strawman. It's ordinary carelessness, not savage guile. I can se…

And let's not kid ourselves. It's all very difficult, what our public servants do.

Yes, it's very difficult to raise that much money to destroy your political opponents while balancing all of the donor favors against what you promised to your constituents while also trying to figure out a way that you can become rich from your time in public office.

I have no pity for most politicians. They tend to be power hungry control freaks who have no problem lying to (get into/remain in) office. The lack of discrimination in voter ability to at least filter out the obvious liars is a never ending source of frustration for me.

We could do so much better.

Re: How the sugar industry shaped key government research about your teeth

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Post by nilkn »

8bitpony wrote: post #52
nilkn wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't understand how it would make sense to brush before rather than after meals. What's the logic behind that? This is doubly so if the meal is sugary. By not brushing afterward, you're just letting bacteria process all that sugar and produce plaque and acid.

My dentist has advised me not to brush after a sugary meal or drink for at least an hour, otherwise you are effectively brushing the sugar into your teeth. Perhaps this also applies (but with a lesser timeframe) for meals that aren't so sugary.

It's more that your enamel is weakened temporarily by acids (which get produced by bacteria in your mouth as a side effect of their consuming the sugar). It is true that you shouldn't brush immediately after a meal -- waiting 30 minutes to an hour is a good practice.

Re: How the sugar industry shaped key government research about your teeth

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Post by abandonliberty »

gmarx wrote: post #35
abandonliberty wrote: post #27

A similar thing happened with the red meat industry. From the first food pyramid evidence was already showing intake should be minimized, but the lobby fought back, and the pyramid was changed. You will notice that the current food plate still carefully avoids saying anything at all about red meat: http://www.choosemyplate.gov/food-groups/protein-foods.html Compare & contrast against the evidence-supported http://www…

You implicitly assume that the research that shows red meat is bad for you is correct.

If you read carefully, I didn't - I only pointed out that lobbies overrode the scientific body of evidence, as it does here.

Of course, if you don't find that peer reviewed evidence accepted by leading experts in appropriate fields is the most reliable source of policy, then I'm curious what differentiates you from human-generated climate change deniers.

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